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The True Sumerian Peoples.

by Ronald Duane Cochran
(Garden Grove CA. U.S.A. )

The end of this long period of the weak rule of the city priests was terminated by Sargon, the priest of Kish, who proclaimed himself king and started out on the conquest of the whole of Mesopotamia and adjoining lands. And for the time, this ended the city-states, priest-ruled and priest-ridden, each city having its own municipal god and its own ceremonial practices.

(876.6) 78:8.9 After the breakup of this Kish confederation there ensued a long period of constant warfare between these valley cities for supremacy. And the rulership variously shifted between Sumer, Akkad, Kish, Erech, Ur, and Susa.

(876.7) 78:8.10 About 2500 B.C. the Sumerians suffered severe reverses at the hands of the northern Suites and Guites. Lagash, the Sumerian capital built on flood mounds, fell. Erech held out for thirty years after the fall of Akkad. By the time of the establishment of the rule of Hammurabi the Sumerians had become absorbed into the ranks of the northern Semites, and the Mesopotamian Andites passed from the pages of history.

(877.1) 78:8.11 From 2500 to 2000 B.C. the nomads were on a rampage from the Atlantic to the Pacific. The Nerites constituted the final eruption of the Caspian group of the Mesopotamian descendants of the blended Andonite and Andite races. What the barbarians failed to do to effect the ruination of Mesopotamia, subsequent climatic changes succeeded in accomplishing.

(877.2) 78:8.12 And this is the story of the violet race after the days of Adam and of the fate of their homeland between the Tigris and Euphrates. Their ancient civilization finally fell due to the emigration of superior peoples and the immigration of their inferior neighbors. But long before the barbarian cavalrymen conquered the valley, much of the Garden culture had spread to Asia, Africa, and Europe, there to produce the ferments which have resulted in the twentieth-century civilization of Urantia. (Earth)

(877.3) 78:8.13 Presented by an Archangel of Nebadon.

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Dec 03, 2011
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The Map is Not The Territory.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

The Book is NOT God. Only God is God. Man is NOT his body. Man is NOT God. Only God is God. The Book is NOT God. God is Spirit. A Book is NOT Spirit. The Spirit is Spirit. A Mans body says something about a Man. A Mans body is NOT The Man.

The Book says something about God. The Book is NOT God. God's Book says something about God. God's Book is NOT God. A Man's body is NOT The Man. The Map is NOT The Territory. A Man reads The Bible. A Man does NOT understand The Bible. A Man reads The Bible. A Man understands The Bible.

There are answers in The Bible. There are NOT answers in The Bible. The Bible is True. The Bible is NOT True. God is not willing that any Man should perish. Some Men will perish. Gods Will is to save Man. Some Men will be lost. Man is Lost. Man is Saved. Men are Friends. Men are Enemies. Some Men Love. Some Men Hate. Some Men are Different. Some Men are The Same.

The World is Hate. The World is Love. Some Men Pray. Some Men do NOT Pray. Nothing will Change. Everything will Change. A Man Believes He is Right. A Man Believes He is Wrong. God is Right. Man is Wrong. Everything God Knows. Everything Man Knows. A Man is NOT God. A Book is NOT God. God is God. Man is Man. A Book is A Book. The Word is The Word. The Truth is The Truth.

Dec 03, 2011
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God saves
by: Robert Marshall

John 6:44 - I don't know how much anyone reads the Bible, but all the answers are there for anyone to read. Most people don't read the Bible because they have no interest in it. If God draws a person to eternal life, God will give them a desire to know Him. There are a lot of people who are not attracted to each other because they are not the kind of person they like.

There are a lot of people who like me, and there are a lot of people who don't. The ones that do I try to keep in touch with. The ones that don't I don't bother with. It doesn't mean I hate them, it just means we don't have anything in common.

The is to much hatred in the world. I pray Jesus comes today and changes it all. Everyone may think they are right, but Jesus is the one who will decide. Everything I know and a buck will buy me a cup of coffee.

Dec 02, 2011
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Everybody Talks About A Lot Of Things, But Not Me.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

God doesn't care. God is busy. Man doesn't understand The Bible. Too bad. God does not Love all Men. God only Loves some Men. Some Men only Love God. I have spoken. I say what go's and I say what stay's. I have spoken.

Dec 02, 2011
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Who knows
by: Robert Marshall

Every body talks about a lot of things. God doesn't care. God is busy saving people. If anybody doesn't understand the bible in a spiritual way, what a shame. God is not saving everyone. Only the ones He chooses.

Dec 02, 2011
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All Men Are The Same.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

All Men are the same. No Man is better than another Man. All Cultures are the same. No Culture is better than another Culture. All conditions are the same. One condition is not better than another condition. A castle is someones shack, and a shack is someones castle. Different Cultures are not different, they are the same. Each Man lives as he see's fit. No one knows how another person lives, until they have lived as the other person. One Man makes money and saves it, another Man makes money and spends it. All people have the same standard of living. No one has a better life, than another person. No one is better off, than another person. In order to know something, you have to experience something. We can criticize other Cultures, and other Cultures can criticize us. We don't live with other Cultures, and other Cultures don't live with us. We have a comfort zone, and they have a comfort zone. Man is forced to go to War. Each Culture believes it is "Right". Each Culture believes the other Culture is "Wrong". Man is programmed to have bad habits, by it's Culture. Man is programmed to eat dirt. It is almost impossible to change a Man. Man loves himself, as he is. Man is self destructive. Man cannot change. The mind of a Culture must change, before it can change the mind of Man. Man must learn, to learn something new. Man only knows his own Culture. Some Men are slaves, some Men are Masters. Some slaves become Masters, and some Masters become slaves. Man hates Man. Man hates himself. God saves some Men. God destroys some Men. The World does not change. Man does not change. Man makes itself feel better than others. Man is not better than others. Man is the same. Smart Men are dead. Stupid Men are alive. Long live The King.

Dec 02, 2011
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People
by: Robert Marshall

No one in this world is more better off than anyone else. People live in castles and people live in shacks. Different cultures in the world live according to what they have, as far as they see fit. I am not rich so i don't know how the rich people live. It seems that if you make 20,000 dollars a year, you spend 20,000 dollars a year. the same if you make 200,000 thousand dollars a year. The only thing that changes is your standard of living. No one can say who is better off. Someone once said, in order to analyze dirt you have to eat some. We can sit back and criticize different cultures but we don't live with them. We seem to pick a comfort zone in life that suits us, then we go from there. There are a lot of veterans in the world today that were thrown into a culture of war, and look at the results of that. It seems that when we are in our comfort zone, that gives us the right to criticize other cultures. People who have bad habits like smoking and drinking and drugs, are in a culture they either chose or were forced into. It's that eating dirt thing.It takes a long time to change that type of culture if you want to. It is like the man who said i love stabbing myself. He will see that doing this will jeopardize his life or it will kill him. If he wants to quit doing this it will take a lot of time to reprogram himself. The mind must be changed to the way of life you want to live in order to change your culture. It's like learning to speak a new language. It takes time. Most people are content to live in the culture they were born in because that is all they know. When people in Africa were taken out of their culture and brought to America as slaves, their culture was left behind. They had to build a new culture here in America. It is hard to build a new culture in a country where you are hated.

In Arab countries when God saves someone, when the Arabs find out, they will kill them by cutting off their head. We can talk all we want about the world and what is going on in it, but what are we changing?

Maybe we make ourselves feel better. We put ourselves above other people because of our brilliance. Einstein is dead, long live the Lord.

Dec 02, 2011
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The Realization of Utopian Dreams.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

(764.2) 68:1.6 That contemporary cultural society is a rather recent phenomenon is well shown by the present-day survival of such primitive social conditions as characterize the Australian natives and the Bushmen and Pygmies of Africa. Among these backward peoples may be observed something of the early group hostility, personal suspicion, and other highly antisocial traits which were so characteristic of all primitive races. These miserable remnants of the nonsocial peoples of ancient times bear eloquent testimony to the fact that the natural individualistic tendency of man cannot successfully compete with the more potent and powerful organizations and associations of social progression. These backward and suspicious antisocial races that speak a different dialect every forty or fifty miles illustrate what a world you might now be living in but for the combined teaching of the corporeal staff of the Planetary Prince and the later labors of the Adamic group of racial uplifters.

(764.3) 68:1.7 The modern phrase, “back to nature,” is a delusion of ignorance, a belief in the reality of the onetime fictitious “golden age.” The only basis for the legend of the golden age is the historic fact of Dalamatia and Eden. But these improved societies were far from the realization of utopian dreams.

http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-68-dawn-civilization

Dec 01, 2011
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God Speaks Through Man.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

God speaks through Man. Man wrote The Bible. Man has fingers, God no fingers. Jesus wrote in the dirt, Man writes on paper and on stone. Man tells us, that God said. Man said, that God said. Man's wisdom is from Man. God's Wisdom is from God.

Man is ignorant, God is spiritual. Man does not know. God only knows. No one understands The Bible. Only God understands The Bible. God will only teach some men, but not other men. God is no respector of Man. God has no favorites. Man cannot negotiate with God. God is not influenced by Man. God's Plan was before Man. Man cannot change God's Plan. God has no needs. God has no new ideas. God already existed before existence. Everything already existed for God, before it existed. God forgets Man's sins, God saves Man. Nobody knows anything.

No one really knows what God made, or what God didn't make. Jesus said that Man knows nothing. The only thing that exists, is God's Will. The only thing that I care about, is God's Will. Man is very poor. Man has no job. Thank God. Let him who has eyes to see, listen. Let him who has ears to hear, see. God speaks through Man.

Dec 01, 2011
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Heaven
by: Robert Marshall

Romans chapter 9 and Galatians chapter 4. God tells us who goes to heaven and who does not. God said the flesh profits nothing. God said all mans wisdom is ignorance to God. I don't know how much anybody knows the bible spiritually. I do know that God chooses who he will teach and who He will not.Nobody can influence God in any way. His plan was cut and dried before he created anything. God doesn't need anyone's approval.

He doesn't think anything new. As long as God has existed everything has existed with him. The only thing God forgets, is the sins of the people he saves. Nobody knows if God ever created any other universes or people. Jesus said you speak of what you know. The only thing i am concerned about in this world is, doing Gods will. I do a very poor job of it. Thank God for forgiveness. See you in Heaven or not.

Dec 01, 2011
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The Only Thing That Matters In Life Is Heaven.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

"Nothing in Life Matters", except Heaven. This is an easy solution to Life, if one wants to avoid the difficult thinking which is required, as one tries to resolve the difficult problems and mysteries in Life. Not that anyone would even care to resolve the issues and mysteries in life, since the only thing that really matters in Life, is Heaven ("Heaven" which we cannot even talk about either, because of our lack of knowledge on the topic). Things that are only "temporary" serve a purpose too. Jesus' life as a flesh and blood human being served a purpose. Things in life that are merely "temporary" serve their purpose, which means they are not irrelevant.

It is not so important to be "remembered" by human beings, but to be "remembered" by God, that is the significance. Jesus wasted alot of time, quoting other peoples words, from The Old Testament. Did Jesus think that others would think he was smart?, for constantly quoting what other people had already said, in The Old Testament?. It doesn't matter if what Jesus said is true or not. If we believe that what Jesus said was untrue, it still doesn't matter, because it was true for Jesus.

What a waste of time and energy for Jesus to say things, which were already said by other men, in The Old Testament. Was Jesus trying to impress God?, by the things he said?. People waste their whole lives learning about things, which will not contribute at all to them getting to Heaven. The only goal in Life, is to get to Heaven. The only goal in Life, should be to get to Heaven, everything else does not matter, it's all only garbage. To only learn one truth in Life, is a very limited perspective for a human being. But, if it gets you to Heaven, then it's the only Truth that will be important to you.

All the knowledge in the world is unimportant and irrelevant, compared with the main goal of getting to Heaven. Once you get to Heaven, then you may start to learn again. But, until then only one thing may exist within your mind and that is the simple goal and desire of getting to Heaven.

Dec 01, 2011
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People in the land
by: Robert Marshall

Everything we talk about in this world is temporary. If you live 10 years and die who will remember in a hundred years. We humans waste a lot of time on things that are temporary just to show others what someone else said. Do we think that others will think we are smart. We are just repeating what we heard from someone else. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. If we believe it is true then to us it is true even if it isn't. What a waste. If we think we are impressing God we aren't People waste their whole life learning about things in this world that will not get them into heaven. Before i was saved i did the same thing. Paul looked back on his life and all he saw was garbage. Everything he learned he looked at as dung.I would rather learn one truth that would get me into Heaven than all the knowledge in the world, that is passing away.

Dec 01, 2011
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The Evolution of Culture.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

6. Evolution of Culture

(769.6) 68:6.1 Man is a creature of the soil, a child of nature; no matter how earnestly he may try to escape from the land, in the last reckoning he is certain to fail. “Dust you are and to dust shall you return” is literally true of all mankind. The basic struggle of man was, and is, and ever shall be, for land. The first social associations of primitive human beings were for the purpose of winning these land struggles. The land-man ratio underlies all social civilization.

(769.7) 68:6.2 Man’s intelligence, by means of the arts and sciences, increased the land yield; at the same time the natural increase in offspring was somewhat brought under control, and thus was provided the sustenance and leisure to build a cultural civilization.

(769.8) 68:6.3 Human society is controlled by a law which decrees that the population must vary directly in accordance with the land arts and inversely with a given standard of living. Throughout these early ages, even more than at present, the law of supply and demand as concerned men and land determined the estimated value of both. During the times of plentiful land — unoccupied territory — the need for men was great, and therefore the value of human life was much enhanced; hence the loss of life was more horrifying. During periods of land scarcity and associated overpopulation, human life became comparatively cheapened so that war, famine, and pestilence were regarded with less concern.

(770.1) 68:6.4 When the land yield is reduced or the population is increased, the inevitable struggle is renewed; the very worst traits of human nature are brought to the surface. The improvement of the land yield, the extension of the mechanical arts, and the reduction of population all tend to foster the development of the better side of human nature.

(770.2) 68:6.5 Frontier society develops the unskilled side of humanity; the fine arts and true scientific progress, together with spiritual culture, have all thrived best in the larger centers of life when supported by an agricultural and industrial population slightly under the land-man ratio. Cities always multiply the power of their inhabitants for either good or evil.

(770.3) 68:6.6 The size of the family has always been influenced by the standards of living. The higher the standard the smaller the family, up to the point of established status or gradual extinction.

(771.1) 68:6.12 [Presented by a Melchizedek sometime stationed on Urantia. Earth]

http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-68-dawn-civilization

Dec 01, 2011
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The Evolution of Culture.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

6. Evolution of Culture

(769.6) 68:6.1 Man is a creature of the soil, a child of nature; no matter how earnestly he may try to escape from the land, in the last reckoning he is certain to fail. “Dust you are and to dust shall you return” is literally true of all mankind. The basic struggle of man was, and is, and ever shall be, for land. The first social associations of primitive human beings were for the purpose of winning these land struggles. The land-man ratio underlies all social civilization.

(769.7) 68:6.2 Man’s intelligence, by means of the arts and sciences, increased the land yield; at the same time the natural increase in offspring was somewhat brought under control, and thus was provided the sustenance and leisure to build a cultural civilization.

(769.8) 68:6.3 Human society is controlled by a law which decrees that the population must vary directly in accordance with the land arts and inversely with a given standard of living. Throughout these early ages, even more than at present, the law of supply and demand as concerned men and land determined the estimated value of both. During the times of plentiful land — unoccupied territory — the need for men was great, and therefore the value of human life was much enhanced; hence the loss of life was more horrifying. During periods of land scarcity and associated overpopulation, human life became comparatively cheapened so that war, famine, and pestilence were regarded with less concern.

(770.1) 68:6.4 When the land yield is reduced or the population is increased, the inevitable struggle is renewed; the very worst traits of human nature are brought to the surface. The improvement of the land yield, the extension of the mechanical arts, and the reduction of population all tend to foster the development of the better side of human nature.

(770.2) 68:6.5 Frontier society develops the unskilled side of humanity; the fine arts and true scientific progress, together with spiritual culture, have all thrived best in the larger centers of life when supported by an agricultural and industrial population slightly under the land-man ratio. Cities always multiply the power of their inhabitants for either good or evil.

(770.3) 68:6.6 The size of the family has always been influenced by the standards of living. The higher the standard the smaller the family, up to the point of established status or gradual extinction.

(770.4) 68:6.7 All down through the ages the standards of living have determined the quality of a surviving population in contrast with mere quantity. Local class standards of living give origin to new social castes, new mores. When standards of living become too complicated or too highly luxurious, they speedily become suicidal. Caste is the direct result of the high social pressure of keen competition produced by dense populations.

(771.1) 68:6.12 [Presented by a Melchizedek sometime stationed on Urantia.]

Nov 30, 2011
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Spiritual understanding
by: Robert Marshall

There is a story in 2 Kings 6 vs.14 thru 18. If God doesn't open the Spiritual eyes and ears of man he will never see anything spiritual.

Nov 30, 2011
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The Bible As Absolute Truth.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

Nobody can understand The Bible unless The Holy Spirit opens the human mind to it. There are people who DO NOT understand The Bible, and there are people who DO understand The Bible. God can reveal something in The Bible to someone, that he does not reveal to someone else. Jesus said to his own Apostles: "There are many things that I would like to reveal to you right now, but your minds are not ready to accept them at this point in your spiritual development".

There are many things in The Bible that are not going to be understood by people, in general. Because, God set up The Bible to be understood, only by those human beings who would be willing to "see" with their spiritual eyes, what cannot be seen by the unspiritual eyes of the average human being. There are the basics, within The Bible which are easily understood even by the non-believer. For instance "The Ten Commandments". Even a non-believer can understand The Ten Commandments, at least as "Do's and Dont's".

Then, there is the next level of understanding, which is by the average church going person, as understanding what Jesus taught in The Parables and by the stories in The Old Testament. "Let those with ears, hear and those with eyes, see". The eternal destruction of the soul of a human being, is spiritual death, and its not temporary death, its eternal death. What The Book of Revelation refers to as "The 2nd Death", from which there is no resurrection. The Holy Spirit must open your spiritual eyes and spiritual ears to understand these spiritual truths. God does not have a "vacuum cleaner". God knows All Things. God is Truth. God is Love. God is Righteous. God is Good. God is Great. God is Life. God is Light. God does not Change.

God cannot Lie. God cannot do Evil. God cannot makes mistakes. God cannot go against His own Nature. God is Perfect. God does not have questions. God does not have difficulties. God is not at War. God is not worried. God is Peace. God has Absolute Understanding. God is a Man. The Man is Jesus Christ. The glorified resurrected God/Man. God gave Man the ability to become more than Man is currently, and God gave man the ability to throw everything away too. Even the human soul can be thrown away by Man, and to become less than Man is currently. I don't like speaking for others, especially for the whole human race, but "Nobody knows what will happen, when this world is destroyed by God. We might not even be here.

All knowledge will cease someday, and it will be when we die or when God comes. You have no choice in the matter". I guess that about sums it up for everyone speaking.

Nov 29, 2011
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God and knowledge
by: Robert Marshall

Gods bible contains information about all the things God created. We can read it from cover to cover and understand it. Intertwined in all that information is the mysteries of God. Nobody can understand it unless the Holy Spirit open your mind to it. God said to man, multiply and fill the earth. Down through the ages God wrote about the progress of man. The old testament is a living parable of the new testament which is a spiritual parable of eternity to come. The only way to understand this is if the Holy Spirit opens your spiritual eyes and ears. Jesus said you have eyes to see, and ears to hear. He was talking about spiritual eyes and ears. For example, the Bible says[ it is appointed unto man once to die and after that the judgement]. That scripture is talking about the spiritual death. When adam sinned against God man died spiritually. Spiritual death means separation from God. In other words eternal damnation. It isn't talking about the flesh.The wedding in cana was a picture of the wedding of Jesus and the saved. God created man on the sixth day. There were six clay jars at the wedding. A reference to man.The water represents the word of God. The wine represents the blood of Jesus. The witnesses are the servants who poured the water into the clay pots. Ask the Holy Spirit to open your spiritual eyes and ears to understand spiritual things.

Nov 29, 2011
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God is God and man is man
by: Robert Marshall

Boy oh boy, You said a mouthful. God saw the beginning and the end before He said [Let there be light]. The Bible says God made everything out of nothing.That does not mean God lived in a vacuum.If there is one thing that God doesn't know, then He is not God. God knew that there would be more people on the earth than there were thousands of years ago. Can you imagine bringing a load of tomatoes from California to New York in a horse drawn wagon. Psalm 139 says God sees us in the womb before we are born. He writes down our days of life before we live even one day. How could God choose anybody to do his will thousands of years before they are born.

Rev. chap. 13 verse 8 and rev chap. 17 verse 8 tell us that before the foundation of the world God wrote the names of all he would save in the Lambs book of life.How could He know anybodies name unless He saw them before He created them. God saw everything from beginning to end, and everything that would happen.

If that is not true then there is somebody greater than God. Since as far as we know that is not true we are in agreement. When someone builds a house, he first sits down and makes a plan of how it will be built. He puts in every nail and every other part to that house. If you ask him he can tell you about every nail he used, how he built and for what purpose. God gave gifts to man, so in this world we would survive. We went from living in a cave to what you see the world is today. If a man lives to be 65 years and always has the mind of a two year old, that is all he will ever be. If God just put us here and didn't give us the ability to gain knowledge, what would be the purpose of that.

Everything that man does, God built into man when He created him.We have knowledge of everything in this world collectively.How many people does it take to put a new car in your driveway. God created us to rely on each other, but sin changed it all. It is a good thing to talk and exchange information. You know things that i don't. I know things that you don't. When we share we both win. I value every ones opinion.If i spoke to you as a child and you looked at it as being from a child you would understand it.

You were there to when you were a child. Nobody knows what will happen when this world is destroyed by God. We may not even be here. All knowledge will cease someday, and it will be when we die or when God comes. You have no choice in the matter.

Nov 29, 2011
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God is God and Man is Man.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

God is God and Man is Man. God said "this", and Man said "that". God has Wisdom and Man has worldly wisdom. If a finite mind cannot understand God, then how can a finite mind understand The Bible?. If a Man understands The Bible, it is because Man is utilizing an infinite mind, to understand The Bible. If God takes "credit" for everything that happens in the world, then God is also responsible for everything that happens in the world. Whether the things that happen in the world are "evil" or "good". Every "temptation" in the world is caused by God?, or by The Devil?, or caused by Man?. Is there no one who will take responsibility for their "actions" in this life.

Everything that we think we "know", we also think was "known" by someone else before us. "There is nothing new under the sun", unless of course you take into consideration all the new technologies and new scientific discoveries and new inventions and new theories about particle physics and new discoveries in outer space from astronomy and the new understandings of the human body and human mind, etc. If God did not give Man, everything that God gave Man, then Man would have nothing. Everything that Man has is because of God. But, can we say that God causes Man to sin?. Can we give "credit" to God, for what Man thinks in his thoughts?.

When Man makes a mistake, is it God causing Man to make the mistake?. Does God cause Man to do what Man does?. Did God cause history to be the way it is?. Salvation is not Mans decision to be "saved", God causes Man to be "saved", whether Man wants to be "saved" or not. Man is sin. God caused Man to be Sin. God caused Man to be "saved". Man is now both "sin" and "saved". Man is both "damned" and "saved". Misery is for a learning experience, and Man understands that he does NOT understand.

If God wrote The Bible, then Man is God. If Man is God, then everything that a Man does, is because God makes Man exist. Without God, Man would do nothing by himself or of himself. Everything God does is for His own Glory, and everything a Man does is for his own "glory" too. It does not matter what a Man "believes", especially about what was just written here. Man will die, Man will know The Truth, Man will like it or not not like it. God is God and Man is Man.

Nov 29, 2011
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Truth
by: Truth

God said [all mans wisdom is ignorance to God]. God put man in the world with wisdom of this world. A finite mind cannot understand the Things of God. We cannot take credit for anything that takes place in this world. Everything we know someone else knew before us. Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun.

If God did not give man the ability to think and reason, where would man be? If God did not give man a memory then history would not exist. Everything God did was for man to know good and evil. If we had no memory we would have no conscience. We would not feel guilty about any thing if we couldn't remember what we did wrong. God gave us the gift of reason and memory so that we could distinguish between good and evil.

All this had nothing to do with salvation. We can't change what we are as far as sin is concerned. If we could we would not need Gods forgiveness. Jesus would not have had to die on the cross. If nothing will be remembered about this life in eternity then why go through this misery. This is a part of Gods plan no man understands. The Bible says[ We do not know what we shall become, but we know we will be like Him, because we will see Him as He really is].

If God didn't write the Bible we wouldn't be having any discussion about eternal life, because we wouldn't know of it's existence. Everything God does in His creation is for His Glory, not ours. It doesn't matter what we believe, one thing is for sure, we all die then we will know the truth whether we like it or not.

Nov 29, 2011
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True Statements Can Be Made By Man.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

True statements can be made by Man. Even when a Man is unaware of the truthfulness of his own statements. Man can be wrong, and not know it. Man can be right, and not know it. A belief can be true, or a belief can be false. Man can believe something which is true, or Man can believe something that is false. Whether this "matters" or not, depends upon whom you ask. To some people, "nothing" matters in this life. For other people, only some things "matter" in this life. To some people, everything "matters" in this life. Blind Faith is one thing, Reasonable Faith is another thing, and Spiritual Faith is something else. There are different degrees of understanding for each individual human being. What one person understands, another person does not understand. Some people "believe" in things, with no good reason. Others "believe" in things, for a very good reason. Some people "believe" that "reason", does not really exist.

Nov 28, 2011
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Absolute Truth
by: Robert Marshall

Absolute truth does only exist for God. All other truth that man believes in is tainted. God said, the flesh profits nothing. No flesh shall inherit the Kingdom of God. Jesus said just before He went to heaven, the Holy Spirit would come to the apostles and bring to remembrance all that Jesus taught them. Jesus asked the apostles, Who do men say that I am. Some said Elijah, some said john the baptist, or one of the prophets. Peter said, You are the Christ the Son of the living God. Jesus said to Peter, man didn't tell you that, God did.

The only way to get God the holy Spirit to teach anyone is to have salvation. God determines whom He will save. The Bible says, we don't know what we will become, but we know we will be like Him, because we will see Him as He really is. This universe and everything in it will be destroyed. There will be a new Heaven and Earth. God gave us the Bible as a guide for our lives, to teach us the difference between good and evil. In this world we humans do both.

That is not good enough for God. Jesus said when He comes back the dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. He did not say everybody will be raised. At the White Throne Judgement all the rest of the dead will be raised for judgement. Once a person gets saved he or she no longer looks toward the past, but toward the future, and eternal life.

The past is dead to them. Children of the world look forward to the easter bunny, and santa claus. At a time in my life i did the same. After salvation i look for the return of Jesus and eternal life with Him.

Nov 28, 2011
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Absolute Truth does not exist for humans, only for GOD.
by: Ronald Duane Cochran

Absolute Truth does not exist for humans, only for God. Absolute Truth does actually exist, but humans are not qualified or permitted to understand or comprehend INFINITY. This does not mean that INFINITY does not exist, it does exist. But, as far as a human proving the existence of INFINITY is concerned, it is a futile effort. This same principle applies to all other types of ABSOLUTE TRUTH, too. Prove-able facts ("Relativity") are one thing, and science can help in that effort. But, no human scientist can prove the existence of God, or of INFINITY, or of anything else which is ABSOLUTE. Therefore, why would a human require such unattainable evidence?, in order to believe that something is "real" or not, or if something is "true" or not?. It doesn't make any sense. But, humans are not known for there logical sense, or for their accurate conclusions either, etc.

Nov 28, 2011
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True Sumerian people
by: Robert Marshall

I sometimes wonder where all this information about history comes from. Is it all true or is it part fact, and part fiction. Unless there is absolute proof of the facts about the subject being talked about, how can anybody say it is absolutely true. There are many facts about history we can find out about through study . A lot of facts we will never know. It is easy to write a book about history.

It doesn't have to be all true. If you can't find the truth just make something up. It helps to sell the books. There are a lot of assumptions about a lot of history. Stories handed down through the ages. Like the little kid who sprained his ankle. By the time it gets to the other side of town, he has two broken legs. God wrote a book about history, but a lot of people don't believe it. Past history doesn't affect our lives in any way so as to change what we are. Some day we will all die, so as far as i am concerned history will be dead too.

History doesn't help or hurt anybody. It's just something we know or heard about. We can say or believe whatever we want to. It all comes down to living our life the best way we can and help others to do the same. But sin is never satisfied, the grave is never satisfied, and greed is never satisfied. I would rather live in a world where people live in harmony and peace. As long as there is sin in the world that will never happen.

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