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Joktan are Chinese

by Donovan
(N.M.)

Joktan are the pure Hebrews. Genesis 10:25 states Heber had two sons, Peleg and Joktan. Genesis 10:30 says Joktan and family migrated to the Far East. They became the Chinese descendents. Peleg migrated to the Middle East and became the Israelite people.

That is where the term "Oriental" came from, the Middle East. God said Japheth will live in the tents of Shem. The modern majority of the people of the Middle East are an amalgamation of Japheth, Shem and Ham.

The Oriental Israelites were exiled from the Promised Land to this day. God promised to bring them back soon! Amen!

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Apr 23, 2023
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Joktan brother to Peleg NEW
by: Anonymous

Joktans descendants are only relatives to Peleg his brother through who came the Israelites.

May 17, 2021
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Refer the Book of Jubilees NEW
by: HLN

All you folks from the author to the commenters really ought to read the book of Jubilees to learn the truth. Noah divided the lands of the earth in 3 parts, one for each of his 3 sons. All of Asia (Russia, middle-east all the way to the far east (Philippine islands) went to Shem, Japheth received the colder climes of Europe and north America including Canada and Alaska. Ham received all of Africa, South America, Australia and the Indonesian Islands along the volcanic mountains. Crossing and possessing a part not assigned came with a curse.

Aug 04, 2018
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Joktan travels to the Mountain of the East NEW
by: Anonymous

Watch these series of videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_iDwUHcRA0h_TdUHP8zwg/playlists and you may find what happened to Joktan's seed.
God Bless!

Jul 25, 2018
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Chinese are Semites NEW
by: Anonymous

By the looks of this map, you're on the right track.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_of_Noah#/media/File:The_World_as_Peopled_by_the_Descendants_of_Noah_Shewing_the_Countries_Possessed_by_Shem,_Ham_%26_Japhet_and_their_posterity_after_the_confusion_of_tongues..jpg

It's from a file on Wikipedia, called Generations of Noah. The map claims to be what was generally accepted before history began to be scribbled over by people not wanting you to know anything that even looks like reality. The entire map book is available by clicking on the word "here."

Persia belongs to Elam, Carmania belongs to Arphaxad, China was settled by Tobol... all of these are Semites of the Tribe of Joktan.

And what belongs to Japheth runs from Spain to Siberia, along the rim of the Mediterranean, north of the Black Sea, and North of the Caucasus and Imau Mountains... it seems the Great Wall was put in place to fill in the gap between Japheth of the North and Shem of the South. And Ham is all of Africa and Arabia... which also makes sense.

Hope this helps. A picture is worth a thousand words when those words are being redefined on a daily basis.

Jul 24, 2018
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The Truth NEW
by: Wyldbill

The god of this world deceived the people but not God's Children who have been born again. Our father Abraham's remnant shall be SAVED. Why had the ALMIGHTY allowed all people to not know 100% Who ABRAHAM'S Seed is? Because Faith come by the hearing of the ear but only by the Word of God because he is GOD People, and the only SAVIOUR is he that alone SAVES and we by him for in him is Eternal LIFE and few find him for it is the PLACE of his REST forever. This Life can be found if you seek the face of God and its only found in One and his name is One and its found in the Son of God who is the Light of men and his name through whom we must all be SAVED by is Jesus our Christ , your Christ born from above for he alone is Worthy of his FATHER'S Name and not another nor mother sister or even brother for he is GOD. So the FATHER draws the called to be SAVED by him and we who have come to this revelation are of the seed of faith in Christ for ABRAHAM believed God for SALVATION this is why SALVATION is of the Jews first but seeing they rejected him SALVATION came to all the world till they themselves come to faith until then I like others are Looking up from whence he rose and he will receive us. Call on him and be SAVED. God bless you all that come to the foot of the Cross for Christ paid in full all our sin debt owed unto GOD and be a choosen race SAVED by the blood of the perfect Lamb. EXODUS 6:3 REVELATIONS 21:22 PEACE and may God make his FACE shine upon you who alone is the SAVIOUR, as Written in the Holy Scriptures, JESUS CHRIST God with us. SELAH Amen AMEN and AMEN .

May 31, 2018
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Food for thought NEW
by: Black Seed

The misunderstanding could drown from one-side understanding, most people use the bible as their sole source. Joktan and his sons are the ancient Arabs, for example, Sheba is the Yemenis. The idea that Noah had fathered three different races with the same wife is ridiculous. Yes, three different tribes or nations but not races. Noah had the same wife, however, Japhet wife or wives were not from the Noahs people. Japhet first wife was from the descendants of Cain who killed Ebel. He brought her on board the Ark. She was from a people that had been mixed with the so-called fallen Angels for which God brought about the flood in the first place as the story goes. His second wife is from what the Greeks call in their history as oceanids which are referred to in their mythology. she was a daughter of beings who survived the flood, from where the idea of the mermaids come from. This is the reason for their name it from these offsprings brings about a different races of Japhet. This is why the Europeans have a different historical account that you deem false but not all mythology is false there is a bit of truth to most of them. Japhet was not a European, but his foreign wives help produce them and the Asian. His wife Clymene is also called Asia. You do the math this will give you so idea how the Chinese are derived. Their history suggests that their first Emporer was not from humans and he is depicted with blonde hair and blonde eyebrow and a blonde beard. Emperor mean on of great powers ie a king a king in Semitic language is Malek which also mean Angel Christian say Angels fell to earth and became
men of renown (Emperors and Kings). Black Seed sewing the seed of truth.

May 11, 2018
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BS NEW
by: Anonymous

Lot of confusion and BS. Chinese of O Haplo group are genetically closest to to Haplo group R..who are Aryans and traditionally descendants of Japhet.But no one can be absolutely sure. Joktan going East doesnt tell much.

May 11, 2018
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BS NEW
by: Anonymous

Lot of confusion and BS. Chinese of O Haplo group are genetically closest to to Haplo group R..who are Aryans and traditionally descendants of Japhet.

Jan 18, 2018
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White, Yellow, & Black NEW
by: HalleluYah

It takes great courage to accept the Truth. And when it comes to truth about the Most High, it takes gifts & power from above, and the ONLY Way to know Him and have eternal life is follow the Truth! So the following are the truth, and please go and verify in Scriptures before you let your emotions take control of you (its the way the devil hit human pride buttons!) Keep in mind when you read...that the whole world is deceived (Rev.12:9) because the world belongs to Satan (John10:31) & he rules the world (John12:31; John14:30), he is the god of this world literally (2Con.2:4) ask any kings or people in the high places and they will tell you, but you might have to swear an oath or join their clubs, be it an occult or religion, different cloak but inside they have the same god, the god of this world!

So here is the truth: Noah had 3 sons. Japheth and his descendants were/are the white race who went north to Europe and Russia and all the land of the north. Ham and his descendants were/are the black race went south to Egypt and Africa and all the land of the south, except Cannaan. Shem and his descendants got the middle part of the earth (Genesis 9 &10), and yes, Gen.10:35 tells us that Joktan went Eastward and settled there. The author of this post already correctly stated the truth, so I won't repeat here. If you look at the earth today, who live in the north, the south, and the middle of the earth? Sure there are some mixing but the majority are still there! Did you notice that Joktan had 13 sons! Compare to others at the time with just a few sons, but he had 13! If you start with 13 compared with someone with just one or two kids, and you repeat that pattern for a long time, what do you have? Billions of Chinese, and Asian today are more than 60% of the world population. Yet Japheth's descendants with only about 15% colonized and rule the world, as Noah had said it "Japheth will dwell in the tents of Shem" fulfilled! If we are shock that is because we have been born into the world of Satan and we all went to his schools...is this truth? According to Scriptures! And if in your heart you seek the truth sincerely then the Most High will open your eyes to see. I was too, just like all human ever born... all born into the world of Satan! But I have listen to His call, "Come out of her my people..." Rev.18 Our creator the Most High is very serious, for time is running out, literally, so those who love the truth, please go and seriously pray and look at what I said and the Scriptures behind them, for I only point them out but its your eternal life you need to come to the truth Elohim and not the god of this world! We know Scriptures are true everything you ever learned are from Satan & they are all lies or mixed of truth and lies but the ultimate end result is deception! Great deep deceptions that make the deception portrayed in the movie 'The Matrix' a childplay or level 1 compares to the devil's deception which is level infinity!

What I want to point out is why the truth is right there in front of us but most of us don't see it, because we are blind by the devil...for instance, if someone uses the knife to torture your parents and want you to hang it in your home to remember them by, would you do it? Why then the Christians worship the Cross? Did you know the cross is the symbol of the devil the sun which exists long before the death of our Mashiyach?If you won't worship the knife but will destroy it, why do they worship the cross...remember who is the god of this world? don't be angry at me, I am just a messenger of the Most High...remember he controls this world, so all the information put out are from him (do you understand Ephesian 6 or Dan.7:25 the Little Horn? Satan always rules the world through human kings (Isa.14 & Eze.28 tells us that he was manifest in the flesh of king Babylon and of Tyre, and today in the Papacy! and other kings/presidents; Rev.19:19 said the Beast is the kings of the earth but those under the power of Satan cannot comprehend this! Becareful that he does not control you by the ego/pride buttons, for we must be humble in order to know the truth that will lead us to know the Most High, just as our Mashiyach was meek).

May you be called and be blessed/chosen.

Jan 14, 2018
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Additionally NEW
by: Guy

In addition to the below comment I made, Dr C K Thong made great observations about how the early Chinese had in their writings how to sacrifice to God. For example, the word for sacrifice in Chinese (Xi) is written by combining Bull, Lamb, Excellent/Unblemished, dagger. And the word Justice is written by putting the word for Lamb over the word for 'me'.
Additionally, the Chinese Emperors had border sacrifices to the one God, or as they call Him 'Shang Di', whose characteristics are similar to the Hebrew God. And even much of the manner and requirements of their sacrifices are similar.
Unless the Hittites also had these traditions, it is unlikely that they were the ancestors of the Chinese, as the ancient Chinese writings and traditions more closely resemble a people who learned and then tried to keep the traditions as passed down from Noah, until the passage of time faded the meanings.
As Shem is the son who was noted as the most religious, it makes a lot of sense that he would be the most diligent about his descendants remembering the One Holy God, and His requirements.
So when looking at Chinese ancestry, it would be prudent to look at their traditions and understanding of God (Again, they worshipped Shang Di, the One God of all, initially) back in the ancient days, to see what their fathers taught them. Then this should give us clues about who these fathers were.

Jan 13, 2018
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Tenuous evidence NEW
by: Anonymous

Really need to stop passing as fact the connection about the land of Sinim = China. It's a real reach to say that the Hebrew Bible mentioned Sinim and today's China (Sino) is the same thing.
Why? Just because it sounds sorta similar when you read it? How is that sufficient evidence? It's just hopeful guesswork. Not only that, there is always the chance that the pronunciation sounds different from what is written, as the Chinese language did not come from Latin, Hebrew or Greek. Westerners are not famous for pronouncing Chinese words correctly.

Plus the whole Hittite connection is just another potential possibility. Can't say you are wrong, but your evidences are too weak for you to be so certain. Shoes can be related to trading and fashion, and a quick look on google doesn't show similar facial features in the stone statues of Hittite carvings (I did not consider the color drawings that I saw as evidence).

Jan 07, 2018
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Ham was the Father of near Asians and East Asians NEW
by: Anonymous

All the decendants of Ham were not black people or Africans. Ham was the ancestor of the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and other far Eastern Asians. Ham's son Canaan had two sons that were the ancestors of the Asians: Sin and Heth. Heth was the ancestor of the Hittites. Archologist have found relics of the ancient Hittites showing that they had straight black hair, high cheek bones and wore garments that are similar to the ancient Chinese including shoes turned up at the toes. After the destruction of the mighty Hittites empire the survivors migrated east from Asia Minor and joined a kindred people the Sinites who were decendants of Sin. Chinese acknowledge that their ancestor was Sin and call themselves Sino.

The ancient Hebrews were a mixed people of Semitic and Hamtic ancestry. For example Esau the son of Isaac married two daughters of Heth. Judah married a Caannite woman. Abram had a son by Hagar the Egyptian. The Hebrews left Egyptian bondage with a mixed mulitude. The Gibeonites a Caannite people made a league with Isreal and became part of the nation. The women and children of Shechem were taken captive after Levi and Simon had killed all the men. No doubt they became part of Isreal.

Jul 17, 2017
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Canaanites NEW
by: Anonymous

They fled to Africa. The original Cushite Africans, resembled Indians and Arabians, who are both cushites, and had straight hair. They were finally outnumbered by the curly haired Canaanites.

Jun 28, 2017
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Racial Mischief NEW
by: Abrahamite

Jewish Male Sounds so foolish. Will you falsify history in order to express your hatred. Canaan never lived in Africa and he was not black. Africa was peopled by Cush who was black. Present day Israel is where Canaan lived.

May 10, 2017
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Canaanites NEW
by: Jewish Male

They are mostly the Sub-Saharan Africans (mixed with Cushites). The ancient Canaanites were black skinned with curly hair and, of course, cursed with slavery .

May 10, 2017
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Canaanites NEW
by: Jewish Male

They are mostly the Sub-Saharan Africans (mixed with Cushites). The ancient Canaanites were black skinned with curly hair and, of course, cursed with slavery .

May 10, 2017
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Orientals and Aryans NEW
by: Jewish Male

Yes. The Orientals are the children of Jokatan (along with the original Yemenis, though they are mixed with Ishmaelites and Cushites). But you must remember that Abraham's children by his third wife Keturah went to the east, so the Chinese and other east Asians derive their ancestry also largely from them.

As for the Europeans, they are a mix between the children of Japheth (aboriginal, pre-aryans) and the children of Esau (aryan conquerors).

Apr 22, 2017
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joktan's are from isles of the philippines & indonesia
by: Anonymous

you can never find proof in other asian countries except philippines. our language has hebrew origin long before to spaniards came and we are the richest kingdom in asia because of our gold. our mountains has hebrew origins for ex. mt. puläg named in rémembrance of our greät father peleg, we have eskaya language which was very similar īn hebre.

Mar 25, 2017
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Facts
by: Anonymous

This is mostly true , know doubt they are from the line of Joktan. But the seed counted as the chosen by the Most High came through Peleg, Joktans brother. Pelegs line gave birth to Abraham , Isaac, and the 12 tribes of Israel. most people will say the orientals are of Japhet but that does not fit with what was written in the Bible for them.

Dec 29, 2016
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a possible worldview?
by: Anonymous

The people of Japheth dwelt in the coastlands of Eurasia, mostly north of the mountainous belt. The people of Shem dwelt in the mountainous belt of Asia stretching from the Caucasus to the Far East. The Hamites dwelt south of the central mountainous belt - Africa, Arabian Peninsula. I believe that the Canaanites, who bore the Noadic curse, separated earlier. They initially went west occupying Anatolia (Turkey). They most likely were the founders of the MInoan civilization.They were scattered abroad, meaning they were the first to colonize distant lands by seafaring, not easily reachable by land. Their descendants include the Phoenicians, who were the greatest sailors in the ancient world. Its possible that these first colonized Southern India.
Due to the nature of Noah's curse, the Canaanites would be easily displaced and enslaved by Shem and Japheth. The Aryan invasion of India appears to confirm this. The Myceanean civilization of Greece also successfully overthrew the Minoan one, confirming this. Also, the Israelites were successful in displacing Canaanites from Israel.
However, also, in many cases, it seems that the peoples who displaced the Canaanites chose to keep bits and pieces of the civilization and practices they left behind. Myceanean Greeks assimilated what the Minoans left however - polytheistic religion, alphabet etc. Israel was strictly commanded not to do this, however.

(These are just my opinions and views.)

Jul 05, 2016
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Joktan
by: Anonymous

Indians , sindis an bindis are from joktan
Not all indians are from joktan . Many are from the nabateans who are the chaldeans who are the arameans who are the nabateans whose origin is aws and athir which are the adites and thamud who mixed with akkadians and amorites (imliq) who have element of Arphaxad . People of arphaxad were fwelling in the west . The amorites and akkadians mixed with Canaanites ,the dravidians and people same as pure natives eho have their own language and culture

Sep 13, 2015
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The blessing: Indo-Europeans & Eastern Peoples
by: Anonymous

The blessing that Noah gave was that Japheth would dwell in the tents of Shem, and that Canaan would be a slave to both Shem and Japheth. The children of Japheth are the Europeans; there are very few who would debate this. If you look at the blessing and look at history, this makes sense. The Indo-Europeans came into India mixed with the sons of Joktan and then went north, into Europe. Alexander brought the Greeks into the Middle East and came all the way to India. The Greeks mixed with the Syrians, Persians, Indians, etc. In India they created the Indo-Greek kingdoms; this is another example of Japheth mixing with Shem. Alexander's empire ended the Indo-Greeks remained and was absorbed by the local populations. The Scythians (the ancestors of the Russians), began as a tribe in North Iran. A part of them went south into India, where they mixed with the people and gave rise to the Indo-Scythians, and they were absorbed by the population. The British, French, Portuguese, Spanish, etc all came into the lands of the Arabs, Persians, Indians, etc - ruled over these lands for short periods, mixed with the peoples and then left.

Before the age of colonialism, I do not believe there's any evidence of the Chinese being under European dominion during ancient times. The fact that China, Thailand and Japan never experienced the children of Japheth ruling over their lands is evidence that the people of these nations are from Japheth. They are direct family which is why they were never ruled over. I think the Orient is a mix of Japheth and Ham.

Also, the blessing seems to indicate that the children of Shem would be zealous for God. They would pursue God. Religion, both false and true, comes from the Semitic zeal for God. In the Western Semite lands you find Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. In the Persia and India you find Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Zoarastrianism, etc. These religions including the false ones spread out to the entire world because they originated from Semitic nations. There are many, many children of Japheth who follow Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. Even today, you are more likely to find people to fight and die over religion in the area from India to Syria than in any other part of the world.

Jul 12, 2015
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The Chinese
by: Anonymous

The Europeans in America are not dwelling in the tents of Ham. In America, Australia, New Zealand, etc. the Europeans have taken the land and made Ham's children serve them. The land was not given to Ham, Ham's children just went to these places first and then when Japheth's children came, the dominion over the land was taken.

India and Bactria have always been connected to Joktan. The Dravidians were the first to populate India. The Dravidian comes from the word Dravida which is also pronounced as Dravila, which is Havila in the Bible. Havila was the son of Joktan. India was also known to be where Ophir, son of Joktan settled. Ophir and Havila are both famous for gold, and gold is an obsession of Indian culture (probably more so than other cultures). There are Pre-Islamic Ethiopian texts that say that Rama, son of Kush lived East of Havila and Ophir. Rama was the father of Sheba and Dedan. In India and South-East Asia Rama is worshiped as a black skinned god (Kush was black). According to the stories of Hinduism, Rama had two sons - Lava and Cush (Sheba and Dedan). Rama built cities for his sons in the Eastern side of India so there was probably a lot of mixing between the sons of Joktan and the sons of Rama.

I'm not sure about the Chinese, I believe that they may be connected to Japheth, Ham, or Shem. In Jewish tradition, Japheth is the oldest son and the oldest son gets the double portion, so it's possible that two major races (the East Asians and the Europeans) come from Japheth. They could possibly be from Japheth's son Kittim (Kathay which is term used for the Chinese). Also remember that the Chinese were never colonized - only Hamitic and Semitic lands were colonized. The Hamitic lands and peoples were treated the worst. India and the Middle East were far better off than Africa. It could also be true that the Chinese descend from the Canaanites. Canaan was the father of the Sinim (Sinim = people of the land of Sin). Sina is an old name for China and the East. Additionally, the Hittites of Turkey were from Canaan's son Heth and whenever trouble broke out, the Hittites would migrate East across the Asian steppes. Even though Canaan was cursed, God always manages to keep a remnant for Himself. It could also be that the Chinese come from Shem. The older sons of Joktan could have moved into China. The scripture says that Shem was the father of all the sons of Eber. Why does it say this? The sons of Eber were probably multiracial. Remember, this is a time when one man could have 3-4 wives. The Arabs have a tradition that Eber married the daughter of Nimrod (who was black). This makes Eber's sons Joktan and Peleg half-black. If Joktan had one wife who was from Japheth, and one from Japheth, and other from one of his Semetic cousins, well you see that the kids come out with different features. No one in the world can say that they are 100% pure from Shem, Japheth or Ham. Ham's son Kush - according to the Arab legends - married three of the daughters of Tiras, the son of Japheth. Elam, son of Shem married a daughter of Ham. If you look at the paintings the Elamites had of themselves, they're all black.

May 04, 2015
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Orientals are Descendants of Ham
by: Anonymous

This is absolutely ridiculous. Joktan's sons went to the East and not the Far East. The Chinese people have no claim whatsoever to Joktan or to Shem. Their language is different and no one would confuse an oriental with an Arabic in terms of looks or language or lifestyle.
The sons of Shem are Jews, Arabic, India, etc. Orientals are descendants of Ham.

Apr 12, 2014
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Joktan are Chinese
by: Anonymous

Europe and Northern India were given to Japheth, and Africa and Southern India to Ham.

Middle East is doubtless a mixture of Shem, Ham and Japheth.

If China and America were given to Ham, then Shem receives practically very little. God cannot be so unfair.

If China and America were given to Ham, then the Europeans are dwelling in the tents of Ham when they migrated to America. If we are to base on Scriptures, Asia and America should be Shem, and the Europeans are living in the tents of Shem when they migrated to America.

There is no Scriptures that say Japheth dwell in the tents of Ham. No wonder all African nations regain their independence from the Europeans, but not the Americans Indians, the Maori of Australia and New Zealand, the Eskimos and the Asiatic people of Siberia.

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