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Dravidians, Indians and Sumerians

by Rasheed
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Also the people of Phut settled in north Africa, Tyre, Somalia and Yemen. Imam Tabari RA also said they settled in Sindh and hind (India), they are of afro asiatic culture.

Now I will provide some info on the Dravidians; they are L dna first.

What I dream does coincide with what some people have said: The Mediterranean Peoples (Dravidians)
(Extracts from â€˜The Original Indians â€" An Enquiryâ€™ by Dr. A. Desai)

How the Mediterranean people came to be called Dravidians makes an interesting story. The Pre-Hellenistic Lycians of Asi Minor, who where probably the Mediterranean stock called themselves Trimmili.

Another tribe of this branch in the island of Crete was known by the name Dr(a)mil or Dr(a)miz. In ancient Sanskrit writings we find the terms Dramili and Dravidi, and then Dravida which referred to the southern portion of India.

South India was known to the ancient Greek and Roman geographers as Damirica or Limurike. Periplus Maris Erithroei (Periplus of the Eritrean Sea) in the second or third century AD described the maritime route followed by Greek ships sailing to the South Indian ports: â€œThen follow Naoura and Tundis, the first marts of Limurike and after these Mouziris and Nelkunda, the seats of government.â€

Dramila, Dravida and Damirica indicated the territory. Then it was applied to the people living in the territory and the language they spoke, in the local parlance Tamil and Tamil Nadu or Tamilakam.

The Mediterraneans or Dravidians were associated with the ancient Sumerian civilizations of Mesopotamia and of Elam (southern Iran). Authors have pointed out ethnic, linguistic and cultural affinities between the Sumerians (Mesopotamians) and the Dravidians of South India, and concluded that(( both probably belonged to the same ethnic stock.))

HR Hall writes: â€œThe ethnic type of the Sumerians, so strongly marked in their statues and relofs was as different from those of the races which surrounded them as was their language from those of the Semites, Aryans and others; they were decidedly Indian in type.

The face-type of the average Indian today is no doubt much the same as that of the Dravidian race ancestors thousands of years ago...And it is to this Dravidian ethnic type of India that the ancient Sumerian bears most resemblance, so far as we can judge from his monuments.

He was very like a Southern Hindu of the Deccan (who still speaks Dravidian languages). And it is by no means improbable that the Sumerians were an Indian tribe which passed, certainly by land, perhaps also by sea, through Persia to the valley of the Two Rivers.â€

Hall is of the opinion that Dravidian people must have migrated to Mesopotamia from India,((( whereas others think Dravidians came from Mediterranean regions, which was their earlier home. KP Padmanabha Menon writes about their close relationship: â€œOrientalists, many of them, are prepared to concede that the Sumerians, the Mediterranean race, are branches of the early Dravidians.â€ )))))

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Jan 18, 2023
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My ancestral origin NEW
by: Maco Turnage

Blood type A and B are the parents of my AB blood type, therefore, I share lineage with three bloodlines.
It is said that blood type A is European origin, throughout Asia there are people with this blood type, the people of Europe are Indo-Europeans, Indo means India. There are the Indo-Iranians, etc.
The people of India migrated throughout the world.

Jan 18, 2023
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My ancestral origin NEW
by: Maco Turnage

In case someone say that there are no black Indians, check out the Shinnecock Black Federal Tribe. One of my mother's three tribes are of this language family.

Jan 18, 2023
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My ancestral origin NEW
by: Maco Turnage

I am third generation born in this country, my great grandfather and three brothers came here as free men.
Native Americans old haplogroup Q-M3 is now M3, I am Native American on both sides.
According to my ancestry.com results the only people that I share ancestry within the Americas are with Native Americans. According to my Ancestral Origins results I have ancestry in Jerusalem, North Africa, etc.
My ancestry.com results were downloaded to GEDmatch, I posted them both on FB.
I share ancestry with the Jewish people throughout the world.
In Ethiopia I share >50% ancestry with the people as a whole and >50% with the Jews.
Southern Arabia and India were once part of Ethiopia. India was called Ethiopian Indus Vally Civilization. I share ancestry throughout India and other Asian countries.

Jan 18, 2023
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My ancestral origin
by: Maco Turnage

My haplogroup is M3 (according to hospital personnel) and my blood group is AB.
According to my hospital records I am of the Asian race, and the military listed my brother and I as Caucasian.
I have history posted on my Facebook page.
In an article, blood type of the Hebrews, remains were found in Jerusalem and one other location, >50% of the remains shared my blood type.

Jan 13, 2022
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Origins
by: Zor@star

It's good to find some Free thinkers on the internet!

Does anyone have information linking the ancient khumer and or Chom cultures to the Chaldeans?

Also I have developed a theory that Punjabi culture the origins of Finland and the phonecians of the ancient Mediterranean originate in east Africa with the mysterious PUNT culture.

Egyptian royalty and the phonecians claimed descent from punt and punt was probably a sister maritime civilization with the Dravidian Tamils who sailed around the world quickly after the tower of babel

Feb 07, 2019
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tamils,sumerians and lycians(lukka) descendants of nimrod ibn cush NEW
by: Anonymous

there were few nimrods.the first one was the first king after the deluge and he was the first chakravarthi(an emperor who increases the size of his kingdom) in world.he is called PrithuShena maha raja in indian texts. his son was Nakta-Gaya-Citrararha.Citrararha was the one who went to india from shinaar.he had two brothers named sugathi(sumer) and avarodhana(lukka).so citrararha was the forefather of tamils.
the second nimrod was nimrod ibn arpaxad.he was the wicked nimrod who lead people to build the tower of Babel.
I have more interesting details on this that i found through a 5 year research.
contact my student at "kaviraskbs@gmail.com" . he will let you contact me.

Jun 30, 2018
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Tamil- Mediterranean , Dravidian... NEW
by: Sr.Professor.Architect UK BHOOBALAN

Dear all, with short ...

I speak Tamil-Trimmili, Russian, Hindi and English....
so ...
I am the only one on earth can read(no translation) all languages as Tamil-Mediterranean-Sumerian -Indus valley ..Tamil is mother of all languages...,
we can discuss later...

Please write me with your any specific questions...
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Feb 04, 2018
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urgent NEW
by: Anonymous

interesting.....

this meant dravidians(hind, sind) are from Ham through Cush?

Nov 28, 2016
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Tamils and Niger or Sumerian,
by: ap ppu

Tamil came from Africa, Tamil Language also came from Africa.Tamil God "Magan / Murugan / Murugu" came from Africa, Still Ancient African Having temples for "Murugu " in Small Mountain. Today In Malashiya or South India or Ceylon "Murugan " had Temples in Mountain, Proffser ,-Cathrina.O,Acholonu- Nigeria University-(African History) and Proffser-Siney Louvis Davis -U.S.A, also NewZeeland Proffser.-atkinson-N.Z, University, Tell same.The Niger lived in a placed cfalled-"ERI" or EDu ERI"this are Tamil words,ERI = Lake or Water Tank, (Eng),So old Niger had lived near 100.000 years before,The Tamil Words like,- "ERI" or KAWA> KAWAL or "ALUGU MOLI"= Beuityfull Langage(Eng).This Translation by Tamil> English.Do you know "Jerusalem" a Tamil word, "Jesu +Salem /Thalam". If You want *Bathalakem" was Tamil, "Kannan" Dasam a Tamil name.

Jul 18, 2016
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dravidians
by: Anonymous

Canaanites are from Canaan bin Ham , the 2 famous Canaanites are the lank haired Dravidians who are original Mediterranean and Sumerian people. The other Canaanites were same as pure native indians the akkaxians and amorites (imliq) mixed with both

Feb 28, 2016
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dravidians
by: Anonymous

Dravidians
Nimrudh (Nimrod) was the son of Kush (Cush) Ibn Kan'an Ibn Ham lbn Nuh. The same who ruled Babil in the days of lbràhim, the friend of the Compassionate.
http://www.soebratie.nl/religie/hadith/IbnSad...

there are 3 Nimrods 1) Nimrod bin Arfakhshaad bin Shem his dwelling place was al Hijr number as mentioned above Nimrudh (Nimrod) was the son of Kush (Cush) Ibn Kan'an Ibn Ham lbn Nuh. & 3rdly Nimrod bin Cush bin Ham bin Nuh AS

The Mediterranean Peoples (Dravidians)
(Extracts from â€˜The Original Indians â€" An Enquiryâ€™ by Dr. A. Desai)
How the Mediterranean people came to be called Dravidians makes interesting story. The Pre-Hellenistic Lycians of Asi Minor, who where probably the Mediterranean stock called themselves Trimmili. Another tribe of this branch in the island of Crete was known by the name Dr(a)mil or Dr(a)miz. In ancient Sanskrit writings we find the terms Dramili and Dravidi, and then Dravida which referred to the southern portion of India.
South India was known to the ancient Greek and Roman geographers as Damirica or Limurike. Periplus Maris Erithroei (Periplus of the Eritrean Sea) in the second or third century AD described the maritime route followed by Greek ships sailing to the South Indian ports: â€œThen follow Naoura and Tundis, the first marts of Limurike and after these Mouziris and Nelkunda, the seats of government.â€
Dramila, Dravida and Damirica indicated the territory. Then it was applied to the people living in the territory and the language they spoke, in the local parlance Tamil and Tamil Nadu or Tamilakam.

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The Mediterraneans or Dravidians were associated with the ancient Sumerian civilizations of Mesopotamia and of Elam (southern Iran).
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Dravidians In Crete they were known by the name which the Greeks wrote as Termilai, in Asia Minor as 'Trimmili' or Trimalai (Sastri p60), and in India as Dramiza, Dravida, Dramila and finally Tamil. Their deity was "Mother-Earth" who gave them grain, vegetables and food. The 'Mother Goddess' cult belonged exclusively to Crete where it was known as Durgha (compare Trqqas mentioned in Lycian inscriptions in Asia Minor) as Uma or Parvati. (Sastri p61) They probably brought along with them to India this Mediterranean or Aegean Saivaism, Mother Goddess with her consort Siva. from tamil scholar
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nimrod bin Arfakhshaad
page16 of prophets and patriarchs it says Arfakhshaad also had a son, nimrod bin Arfakhshaad whose dwelling was in the vicinity of al hijr
on page 18 of prophets and patriarchs it says Nimrod was son of cush bin canaan bin ham bin Noah . he was the Lord of babylon and of Abraham,the Friend of the Merciful
one of the offspring of cush was nimrod the one who ruled tyranically in babylon
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The word 'Dravidian' comes from the Tamil words Tbirai Ahvidar, meaning 'sea people'. A popular Tamil saying was 'cross the oceans and acquire gold'

The Arabs introduced the South Indian/ Sri Lankan wootz steel to Damascus, where an industry developed for making weapons of this steel. The 12th century Arab traveler Edrisi mentioned the "Hinduwani" or Indian steel as the best in the world.[99] Another sign of its reputation is seen in a Persian phrase – to give an "Indian answer", meaning "a cut with an Indian sword."[112] Wootz steel was widely exported and traded throughout ancient Europe and the Arab world, and became particularly famous in the Middle East wikipedia

the Dravidians are lank haired canaanites they mixed with the Amorites(imliq) and Akkadians and the Amorites and Akkadians also mixed with another canaanite people same as pure first nations people of North America who have their own language and culture you will find bedouins of jordan like this

Sep 14, 2015
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Sumerians and Tamils
by: Amal Eronimus

There has been thoughts and writings and discussion on the existence of Kumari Continent. For, there are differences of opinions on Kumari Continent. Still around 50 european scholars on the it. Dr. Hekel wrote on it in detail mentioning about the existence of human beings on earth and mentioned that the present Indian Ocean was once known as a continent having Africa and Kumari Continent as one. He states that eh chimpanzees hiding behind the leaves (ilai marai in Tamil)
Ilai marai (T) – Lemuria (E)
The civilization held in Kumari Continent and the existence of civilized people with moral social values builtSilappathharam, Manimehalai, Irayanar Ahapporul, Ramayanam, Arththasaasthiram and many more mention about some how or the other mention about Kumari Continet and the occurances in Kumari Continet. They are present in different environments but talking about the people of Kumari Continen. All the literatures mention about the flood destruction from where people migrated to different parts of the world.. From Kumari Continent, the people moved towards Babylon, Sumeria and Egypt from where they moved to all parts of the world specially to Mesopotamia and Indus region. This research results have produced innumerable arguments and resolutions from geographical, geological, environmental and literary approaches.
Thinking there wouldn’t be any other proof than the known ones already without knowing the fact on Kumari Continent. If it has been dconfirmed, tejthousands of Kumari Continent. The said and stated facts that the Aryans were the sub origins of the land would go astray,
Nobody except Deva Neya Pavanar who firmly spoke on Kumari Continent and the scientific approach to the submerged continents. The scholars who oppose the theory ofSubmerged Continent have so sufficient proof to defend their arguments against Kumari Continent as:
1. The advent of Aryans
2. The origin of Sanskrit
3. The development of Sanskrit
4. The truth about Kumari Continent
5. Indus valley civilization
It has been understood that it has been proposed truly on the basis of caste, colour and creed.
Though the traditional stories could not be taken as pure proof to prove the concept the submerged Kumari Continent, there is a little bit of proof in it. Since Kumari Continent concept has been washed away by dominant sect, there are promising research has come out bringing in the proofs form the literary sources which supply apt approach to call the scientific asupport for the authentication of the literary evidences.
Graham Han Cock has come out with suffiecient proof from the archaeological and literary proof to let the real history of the Dravidian tamil society of civilization to be visible in a conspicuous manner. Based on the literary evidences, th supporting other evidences should be brought out with the ideal way of evaluation and study which could let the real history to be written from the light of justice and truth.

The phylosophy of Kumari Continent lies under various phases like the following:
1. Geographical research
2. Deep sea research
3. Literary evidences
4. Racial proof
5. Migration of the early people
6. The study of ancient literatures and their impact form the perspective of their environment and space and time.
7. The languages as having branches form their own root word search
Research has be made under te fore said topics to have the history of the washed away traditions of the world to write the history rewritten.
There are limited research done under the fore said topics as Ma. So. Victor has brought out from his 35 years of linguistic root word research based on the renowned scholars of the previous era.
The topic, ‘Geographical research’ stand prime for the research for the hidden era of the earlier breed is found with proof alive and intact.
Since geography plays a major role in writing the history of th generations and the destroyed or submerged civilizations on the earth, there had been more changes on the eatch which has not been taken in a serious account of research.
The platonic movement had made the top of the earth into multiple changes causing destruction in multiple manner. It is the earth from the movements caused the great civilizations submerge, which have to be taken in to light of truth and special attention. The approach of the European concept has to take its turn to look at the history from the east point of.
Unless the history has its pen writing from the east, the making of the real history or the truth is impossible as a mission to accomplish in writing the history of the world
After the flood
After the flood, people from the submerged region started to move towards the regions like Africa, Egypt, Arabia and Mediterranean regions.
In 2000 BC
Tamils crossed the Arabian Sea to reach the above mentioned regions. The Phoneticians reached Tamil Nadu crossing the Arabian Sea. Intermittent floods continued and formed different varieties of islands.
In 1500 BC
A Huge asteroid hit the regions of Sri Lanka and Madagascar submerging many isles and populated lands.
In 1200 BC
Asteroids hit the Madagascar region and Sri Lankan regions flooded the cities and towns submerging the castles and kingdoms.

UNESCO
As per the UNESCO report, Before 500,000 AD, the people who lived in the African continent involved in farming between 12,000 and 10,000.
African history have been documented during the Ice Age (25,000 AD – 18,000 AD) African lakes like Victoria Tanganica dried off. They, by the flood between 18,000 and 12,000 the water level rose upwhen it over flew, it became rivers. Nile was the well known river long long ago. Cango, Niger, Sayar are the ever flowing rivers, as per the history and archaeological evidences.
In the beginning, people settled down along the eastern side (from Egypt to Africa) doing farming and fishing along the coast. These regions are known as the previous region of Kumari continent (submerged Lemuria) from Sudan to Tanzania, Northern and most of the African countries of the present continent. They are rooted in the Dravidian base. Niger is rooted in Tamil.
Naahar – niger - negro
Naahars are also known as the Babylonians. African sub origins might have migrated from Kumari Continent (Submerged Lemuria) or in Africa which were of one continent or nearby continents.

Apr 22, 2015
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Sumerian Origin of Dravidians
by: Murli Nair

Another bit of information that might support the theory that the Dravidian were of Sumerian stock is the Tamil word for homeland is "Ur", the same as the ancient Sumerian city.

Feb 26, 2015
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sumerians are black
by: Anonymous

canaanites are semitics
sumerians are black

Nov 25, 2014
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Kalidas Nag
by: Muthamizh

India and Pacific World - Kalidas Nag p. 279

The earliest stone age culture of India is represented by the hand axe technique of Madras and the Old stone age people may have migrated from South India into Central India - where in the Narbada valley have been found middle pleistocene tools, and a fauna gradually extended through the Ganges and Jamuna valleys to North Western India right upto Himalayan Hills.

Nov 25, 2014
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Indus Valley Civilization
by: Muthamizh

Pre-historic South India by V.R. Ramachandra Dikshitar (Madras) 1951 p.243

According to a mighty authority the civilization of the Indus valley was one that had become already age old and stereotyped on the Indian soil. How old it is we cannot definitely say that this stretch of time but we can certainly say that it was in the later stage of the iron culture of South India: for in our opinion the iron culture of the South India may be dated from Eight to Ten Thousand B.C. Therefore it is not strange that the Indian Culture had many millions of human endeavour behind it

These graves at Adichanallur are to be dated in the early Iron Age which succeeded the Neolithic Age in South India (Origin and Spread of the Tamil - Prof. V.R. Ramachandra Dikshitar M.A. (Madras) 1947. P.21

Nov 25, 2014
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The Dravidian Civilization
by: Muthamizh

The riddles of three oceans - A . kondratove ( Moscow) 1974 p 132

However, the Dravidian have a continuity of weapon culture from paleolithic to Neolithic, from Neolithic to Megalithic and Megalithic to iron age in south India.

Thus according to these historical evidences, we can presume that the Dravidian race was indigenous to the country; and the Tamil and other allied peoples were Indigenous; and their civilization is not only the oldest in India but the oldest in the world; and Dravidians had spread not only the whole of India but also to the world over.

Thus considering the origin and spread of Dravidian civilization and their weapons from the finding at "Adichanallur" we can safely come to the conclusion that Silambam is the oldest of all martial arts in the world.

Nov 25, 2014
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Dravidians in the Tigris-Euphrates Region
by: Muthamizh

Dravidian Civilization - R.D. Banerji , Calcutta , 1927 ( Modern Review ) p 308
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Development of the iron culture of the Adiththanalloor (Tamilnadu) may be dated back to 8000 to 10000 B.C. The archaeological evidences are more from Tirunelveli District of Tamilnadu.

The recent discoveries in sindh and Baluchistan prove that the cultural affinities of the Dravidians extended in an unbroken line from the Tinnevelly district ( Adiththanalloor) in the extreme south of the Indian peninsula through Sindh and Baluchistan the island Bahrain in the Persian gulf , South Persia , Mesopotamia to Crete and some of the islands of the Eastern Mediterranean

The Dravidians may have been the first settle in the Tigris and Euphrates area preceding the Sumerians, whose civilization is regarded as the oldest in the world.

Nov 04, 2014
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Dravidians are Canaanites
by: Anonymous

Dravidians are Canaanites. They are the original Phoenician and Sumerian peoples.

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