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ANCIENT ISRAELITES IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS!

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ISRAELITES WERE IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS!

By Pastor Alan Campbell

1992 marked the 500th Anniversary of Columbus' voyage of discovery from Spain to what was then known as the New World in 1492. No doubt there were those who who exploited the celebration of this event to emphasize the Hispanic as opposed to the Anglo-Saxon element in American Culture and society. However it is becoming an increasingly well known and documented fact, that not only were there North Europeans on the American continent long before the voyage of Columbus, but also that Phoenicians/ Israelites sailed from the Middle East through the Mediterranean and across the Atlantic to these shores centuries before the birth of Christ.

I became aware of these exciting facts of suppressed history during my first visit to the United States in 1984. While attending the AMERICA'S PROMISE MINISTRIES camp in New Mexico that year, I was able to visit the site at Los Lunas, near Albuquerque, and see the rock with the Ten Commandments carved in the ancient script.

My curiosity being aroused, I went on to study the books Saga America and America B.C. by Professor Barry Fell of Harvard University, also Cyrus Gordon's Before Columbus and They All Discovered America by Charles Boreland; from these books and various other research items the following facts emerge:

THE PHOENICIANS CAME TO AMERICA

The term Phoenician is a general one, which covers not only the seafaring peoples based in the ancient cities of Tyre and Sidon (on the coast of modern Lebanon) but also the sea-roving Israelite tribes of Dan, Asher and Zebulon, whose tribal territories in Canaan were adjacent to these city states on the East Mediterranean coastline. These peoples planted trading posts and mercantile colonies along the shores of north Africa and Spain, and they engaged in a flourishing tin trade in the southwest corner of the British Isles, their ships passing through the Straits of Gibralter, then known as the 'Pillars of Hercules'.

As long ago as 1913, author T. C. Johnston in his book Did The Phoenicians Discover America? claimed that the American continent was discovered and settled by Phoenicians and Hebrews who kept in contact with the Middle East for some three hundred years. He clairned that North America was the Biblical Ophir, visited by the fleets of King Solomon, and he outlined some twenty-six points of comparison between the civilization of the Eastern Mediterranean homelands of the Phoenicians and Hebrews and the Mayan, Inca and Aztec civilizations in the New World.

More research by Professor Barry Fells points to Punic or Phoenician inscriptions found in New England, Ohio and West Virginia, and also the discovery of coinage and trade goods in the United States which had come from the Phoenician city of Carthage in North Africa.

THE ANCIENT CELTS CAME TO AMERICA

The name Celts was the designation given to those peoples who emerged from the same geographical location where the so called 'Lost Tribes of Israel' had disappeared from at an earlier stage of world history. These people migrated across Europe to settle in the British Isles and the coasts of France and Spain. They were a well organized sea power at the time when Julius Caesar and his Roman legions invaded Britain in 55 B.C.; and he, in fact, makes reference to their ocean-going vessels. Professor Fell has now identified the megalithic structures at Mystery Hill, New Hampshire as a type of temple observatory dedicated to the ancient Celtic sun-god Bel (it was for worshipping this same Baal that their Israelite ancestors had been cast out of Palestine). He claims that other sites dedicated to this same deity and to other Celtic gods and goddesses have been located in Vermont, together with Celtic burial urns and other artifacts.

THE IRISH AND WELSH WERE IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS

It has been rightly said that when the Norsemen/Scandinavians arrived in North America in the Tenth Century, they found that the Irish had got there before them. Although sceptics have ridiculed the legends of the Irish monk Brendan and his journey to America in a hide-covered boat known as a coracle, yet a reconstruction of the voyage in recent times has demonstrated that the route described in the legends from Ireland to Newfoundland, and on to Florida by way of the Bahamas is indeed accurate. It also seems likely that Culdees from the ancient Celtic Church in Ireland, fleeing the sea raids of the still pagan Vikings, followed Brendan's route, seeking refuge first in Iceland, then Greenland, Newfoundland and finally, deep into North America, where they disappear, perhaps giving rise to the traditions common to the Aztecs, lncas and Mayas, of visits by bearded white men.

Legends and traditions also persist that a Welsh Prince named Madog and his followers, fleeing from violence and bloodshed in Wales, escaped by ship and, using ancient Celtic maps and charts, crossed the Atlantic and landed on American soil at Mobile Bay in 1170 A.D.. Moving inland, they built fortified settlements in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee, giving rise to later claims of discovery of 'Welsh Indians' between the mid 1500's and early 1800's. George Catlin believed that he had traced the descendants of these Welsh settlers among the Mandan Indians, many of whom were blue-eyed and whose language contained elements of Welsh.

THE SCANDINAVIANS PRECEDED COLUMBUS BY 500 YEARS

Less open to question or dispute than any of the other groups I have mentioned, is the coming of the Norse or Scandinavian explorers and settlers whose activities in North America lasted from before 1000 A.D. to the late 1300's. The names which immediately spring to mind are those of Bjarni Herjulfon, Eric the Red and his son Leif Ericsson. These Viking settlers travelled from Greenland to New England, which Leif called Vinland because of the abundance of wild grapes found there; at least one building, the Newport Church Tower, still stands as evidence of these pre-Columbian Norse settlements.

CONCLUSION

In light of these few brief facts which I have outlined, it is now obvious that the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did indeed 'spread abroad to the West' (Genesis 28:14) as Almighty God had promised. They had in fact discovered, traded with, and even for a time made settlements in North America, long before Columbus reached the West Indies in 1492.

By all means let us pay tribute to the achievements Columbus made, but let us as Christian Israelites do our best to bring before our people the increasing evidence of the pre-Columbian history of America, which clearly shows God's Covenant people staking claim to their New Promised Land from the very earliest times.

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Jul 16, 2024
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Sibling Rivalry
by: Anonymous

I don't believe the issue is with who found it first, the issue is with what has been done since the idea of colonization. This land and all other lands have been torn apart by people who have evil I their hearts and mind. Of course others found this land but the glorification of 1 man is not going to cut it. If you seek the truth you will find it but so far people only seek to prove their point. The real issue I'm having is the idea it belongs to 1 man or 1 group. The idea that someone discovered land that was clearly inhabited is bull I can't get over how we have the audacity to lay claim to something that not one person can take with them when they die. Get over it. Yes everyone was enslaved but what was done since then nothing because of this useless squabbling about who was the first born child. As a parent of 7 biological and 3 step I love them all the same the only thing I care about is how they treat each other and respect my teachings. I don't want them fighting over my belongings when I'm gone so I won't leave them anything they don't need. this world is excess to the heavens and we can't seem to do right by this so why would God let us into heaven if we can't get over silly stuff like this. we would starve and allow our siblings to unhoused to prove we're better than them. really though. make it make sense. we are failing at what really matters and that's the sad part. If I was god everyone would be getting an beating right now so be greatful I'm not.As an older spirit sibling I'm deeply disappointed in how this is how we spend our time and not getting rid of the new age slavery like having to work to steal from our selves. Our gluttony and greed has led us to this point and Satan has made the best point to burn us all. regardless of what religion we all call on the creator to do our bidding but not once do we have anything to show other than our ignorance. if you live here on this planet in 2024 plenty of our ancestors have roamed this place and left with out our knowledge and we stand here now doing nothing but argue over petty things that mean nothing to a god who has created everything here and abroad.makes me wonder why he ignores our calls.

Jan 26, 2024
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Race wars in the comment section. NEW
by: Read the Bible

To conclude the arguments, unfortunately all colors of peoples have been slaves at one point or another. None of you are victims you are all sinners, none of this world belongs to any of you.it is God's and any and all who accept and love and follow God will inherit the kingdom of heaven. Do not fall into sin, we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

Jan 25, 2024
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Christian Israelites, wtf!
by: Anonymous

Israelites are not christians. Our culture is much older than Christianity. We were segregated from worldly influences until our fall from grace. We knew the so-called white men were coming to wipe our nation out of history and remove all knowledge from records.

Jun 11, 2023
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Yah People See, What hidden from Thee....
by: jawknee

This is a website filled with truth....Yes, The African American ancestors of slaves in America are actually the Lost Tribes of Israel.....The tribe of Shem, serving in the House of Japheth....Deut 28......Yah ordained it for their idol worship....I'm a Whitey, but love Jah....That makes me a grafted Israelite....A Stranger in the house...Jah said...Love you all.....Blessings to all Israel.....My black brothers, and other grafteds, that follow Yah.....Praise to The King! And His Son!...

Jul 22, 2022
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We own this land and in Europe NEW
by: elisabet oneal

Somebody said the blacks are hogging everything. What is your problem. Black people are Adam we created every culture in this world. You people steal our cultures and history. Our cultures aren't up for grabs. All culture Especially Europe. All European aka Ibria is The Tribes of Israel history. African Americans are from Europe and America Aka The Tribes of Israel

Jul 05, 2022
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We own this land and in Europe NEW
by: elisabet oneal

Know one is mentioning moors genocided the tribes here and in Europe. We own any land that was left to Shem. our word is the only law in our land. what what I say is law. In my land. the tribes land. That's why this government is a fiction and was dissolved in 1933. They moors enslaved us and gave our cultures too white people. we're the European aka Iberian. they are the same tribes. that's how the 2 countries are connected.

Jun 08, 2021
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Hog?
by: Anonymous

By the word "Hog" I'm assuming not willing to share... and thats not true. We share the name Hebrew with Esau because Esau is very much so Hebrew. But he can never be a Israelite not because I say so... Because YAH says so.

Mar 25, 2020
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Hogging blacks NEW
by: Anonymous

Blacks want to hog everything, now they are trying to hog Israel's heritage.

Nov 21, 2019
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Real Hebrew Isrealites are AFRICAN AMERICANS! NEW
by: Anonymous

Yes, the real Hebrew Israelites are the so called African Americans. All the curses from Deutoronomy in the Bible fits them amongst other things.

And yes the curren so called Jews living in Isreal are imposters, they are Kahzars, and are currently ruling the world.

Yes History is big lie told by the victors....if you dig enough you will find out how the Edomites are controlling everything.

Jan 15, 2017
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Gog and Mgog war meaning
by: Anonymous

The war of Gog and Mgog is now starting 15-1-2017 as Obama &a Kerry go to Paris to create a state of Palestine
Gog is Obama from the land of Mgog. The numerical numbers in Hebrew of Gog Mgog is 70 as this is the 70 nations of the world under one flag will rise against Israel under one flag UN
This just started under Obama who is Gog he will now answer
To the almighty God of Israel who will bring him down and all of Europe will fall into the hands of the Muslems who will rape and kill them and take over Europe . You cannot fight Israel with out offending God. The 70 nations are the opposite of the 70 souls that entered Egypt in first book of Exodus mentioned
The 70 souls whom entered Egypt.
Amra getton known as Gog and me Gog just started in Europe

Jan 20, 2015
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Israelites in Ancient America? The 10 Commandment Stone in New Mexico suggest so.
by: Anonymous

Israelites came here some 2800 years ago, before the building of the temple and they came for copper that was used for the two pillers at the temple. They met the Navahoe Indian natives and communicated with them. The Israelites realized that the Natives did not know who is God, and they did not have a sabbath (the sixth day of rest called the holy day shabbath).

So they named them this land AM REC. Thus the name America become known. AM means Nation. REC means empty - so they referred to this land as the land of the empty nation, AM RECA, which over time became known as AMERICA.

Jul 16, 2012
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Hi James
by: Christopher

Hi James, I think we spoke before. While I do agree that America will be attacked by Gog (communist Khazar ruled) Russia, I no longer believe it will be a nuclear war, although the '1/3 of trees' issue may be worth looking into, to see if it does mean nuclear burning of trees or just something similar. It does SEEM to be nuclear looking at that verse in particular.

However, it is becoming more and more clear, although not to the 'average Joe', that nuclear weapons are becoming redundant AS WE SPEAK! We only have to look at Obama committing, once again, to use US tax payers hard earned money to build this new nuclear shield defense system for the State of Israel.

Even without the shield countries only use nukes on countries who DON'T have nukes - otherwise its too risky for both countries - and America HAS got nukes. Therefore it will boil down, once again, purely to a matter of numbers, just like in the days of Ghengus Kahn and Atilla the Hun and their hordes invading Europe. America will "crap itself", like Europe and even Rome did in the past. Only Christ will be able to save America from the hordes and the Edomites Jews who spy for and indirectly rule over Russian Gog hordes while living in America.

The Edomite Jews (bankers) who financed communism from the West will be wiped out in the West as traitors, but only Christ will be able to get rid of them in their new homeland - the State of Israel. Which is why Christ will rise from Bozrah and then defend Jerusalem against them.

Ezekiel 36:5 "...Thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey."

Jul 15, 2012
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Revelation 8:7
by: James

States one third of the world's trees were burnt up. The North American Continent from Canada to Panama = 1/6th the world's trees. Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine = 1/6th the world's trees. 1/6th + 1/6th = 2/6ths = 1/3rd. (Revelation 8:7)

The nuclear fire is fire mixed with hail. A nuclear explosion first sets off fire, and when the mushroom clouds are set off they rise into the atmosphere and the debris comes back as hail, according to a military spokesperson on the History Channel.

Russia's attack is an attack upon the United States, including North America. Jerusalem still survives this attack, and remains a city to the time when Christ returns.

Jul 15, 2012
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Think again... (part 1) - part 2 follows below part 1
by: Christopher

I was not referring to that particular verse which does indeed refer to Jerusalem; although it doesn't refer to the Edomite Jews who have made Jerusalem their 'burden', but rather the true Jews in Jerusalem that He will defend - those which have been there since BEFORE 1948 - the remnant left since the time of Christ as well as the actual city itself which is God's city.

I was referring to this one: Ezekiel 38:11 “And thou (i.e. GOG – Russian communists, lead by Communist Khazar ‘Jews’ LIKE Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin) shalt say, I will go up to the land of UNWALLED villages; I will go to THEM THAT ARE AT REST, that DWELL SAFELY, all of them dwelling WITHOUT WALLS, and having NEITHER BARS NOR GATES, (i.e. Europe, or America)
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited (Northern Europe was desolate unlike Greece and Rome), and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish
(SPAIN), with all the young lions (MEN) thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
14 ¶ Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel DWELLETH SAFELY
(POST WW2), shalt thou not know it?
15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and MANY PEOPLE WITH THEE, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
(verse 5 says: “Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them”)
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel (IN EUROPE/AMERICA), as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, AND (additionally) I will bring thee against MY LAND (PALESTINE - to help the Edomites fight Christ who rises from Bozrah), that the heathen may know Me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes...
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against THE LAND OF ISRAEL
(THE LAND WERE ISRAEL NOW LIVES – EUROPE OR AMERICA), saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel
(THE LAND WERE ISRAEL NOW LIVES – EUROPE OR AMERICA);... see below:

Jul 15, 2012
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Think again (continued from above)...
by: Christopher

... 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven...and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down...
21 And I will call for a sword against him (Gog) throughout all my MOUNTAINS (NATIONS – THE COMMONWEALTH), saith the Lord GOD: every man’s sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone...
1 ¶ Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the MOUNTAINS (NATIONS) of Israel:
4 Thou shalt fall upon the MOUNTAINS (NATIONS) of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort...
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the (BRITISH) isles...
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel (THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NOT THE LAND CALLED ISRAEL).
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel (THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NOT THE LAND CALLED ISRAEL) shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:...
12 And seven months shall the HOUSE OF ISRAEL (not the House of Judah) be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land."

Jul 15, 2012
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Zechariah Prophecies ALL NATIONS Will Come Against Jerusalem
by: Anonymous

God said ALL nations would come against Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:2) BEFORE the LORD returns to reign over ALL nations. (Zechariah 14:9)

Jul 14, 2012
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Jews = 1/12 of Israel
by: Christopher

Most Jews of the world DO live everywhere else and NOT in the state of Israel. I seem to be going in circles with you guys, and nobody is prepared to talk facts and provide proof for anything they say except repeating the same things repeatedly.

God did NOT say everyone would turn against THE JEWS in the last days. He said they would turn against ISRAEL in the last days - the 12 tribes of Israel - not the "state of Israel" - a dry piece of land surrounded by barbed wire! Even if the Jews are who they say they are (i.e. Jews), the Jews are not ALL of Israel, and the lost 10 tribes never just disappeared after captivity.

God doesn't forget about his lost sheep - even if they lose their identity and come to be called by a different name. Please try to refute the facts that I have laid out already.

Fact: Herod being an Edomite.
Fact: the Khazars converting to Judaism.

Most modern "Jews" can't even reach consensus on whether the Jews are a race or a religion!

Any prophesies the Jews haven't fulfilled, you guys simply say that they are going to fulfill in the FUTURE, so arguing about prophesy with you guys is a bit pointless! If they haven't accepted Christ in 2000 years, there is little chance they ever will - at least not for the most of them!

There is no logical reason why they should not accept Christ. He fulfilled Old Testament prophesy. He performed miracles and raised the dead in front of these Edomite Jews. Christ said they would not hear Him because they were not of His sheep - despite being of Abraham. (Esau was the father of the Edomites and a grandson of Abraham, BUT he intermarried with the Canaanites and then fathered the Edomites as a result, INSTEAD OF ISRAELITES)

Jul 13, 2012
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Israel Today
by: Anonymous

Seems strange Jews live in Israel and you say they live everywhere else. God said everyone would turn against the Jews in the last days; and you're the evidence the prophets were right!

Jul 13, 2012
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True Jews vs False Jews
by: Christopher

No historical facts about the Balfour Declaration, or Arab terrorists can change the historical facts that most modern Jews are non-Hebrew Edomites and Khazars with no right to claim any part of Palestine as their own.

Jul 13, 2012
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Land For Jews; Land For Arabs
by: Jerod

You seem to be a secret supporter of Palestinian terrorists, as you keep knocking the present state of Israel you must support their terrorist actions. You probably rejoice about the 6,000,000 Jews who died in World War II by the Nazis, and the Israeli athletes who died at Munich at the hands of the Palestinian beasts.

As previously mentioned the British set aside Israel for the Jews and Jordan for the Arabs. Apparently you never read this part of history. You just embrace anti-Semitic beliefs.

Jul 13, 2012
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Fact NOT Theory !
by: Christopher

It is not a "theory" Richard! Most churches and the media refer to it as a theory because the media is mainly Jewish owned. (Think Metro-GOLDwyn Mayer, WARNER Bro's, etc.) Think how many decades of time and future donations would be lost if the Jews lost the state of Israel.

It is a historical fact that the Edomites became Jews - Herod is a good example of this. It is not a "theory" that the Khazars became Jews either - it is historical fact. Fact that cannot be proved to be false, that is why you and other Christians harp on and on about how SEEMINGLY "the state of Israel is fulfilling prophesy", yet totally ignore how they have not fulfilled many other prophesies and also totally ignore the mountain of historical PROOF of the Khazars and Edomites becoming Jewish. This is because you simply cannot use historical facts to disprove these events!

The book "The Thirteenth Tribe" was actually written by a Jew - an honest one! But I guess you don't mind giving your tax dollars to the State of Israel - a bunch of imposters - the "leaven of the Pharisees"!

Jul 12, 2012
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True Israelites
by: Richard

I read about the lost tribe migrations into Europe. Its a theory manufactured some 150 years ago. The British embraced the theory during the time the sun never set upon the British empire.

The British denied the European Jews entry into Israel 1933-1945 A.D. and the British lost their empire.

God says,"I will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel" (Genesis 12:1-3)God doesn't break his covenants-MAN DOES!

I will take you out of the heathen nations and bring you back to your own LAND! (Ezekiel 36:24)

May 14, 1948 read it! The Jews returned. ITS NOT ARAB LAND - THE BALFOUR DECLARATION - ISRAEL FOR THE JEWS AND JORDAN (Palestinian nation) for the Arabs.

Jul 12, 2012
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Contradictions
by: Christopher

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The 144,000 is symbolic of 12 x 12, like many other visions in Revelation are also symbolic!
Those of true Israel who survive Armageddon will NOT number exactly 144,000.

Also you contradict yourself. You say, "so what if the modern Jews are really Edomites and Khazars", it will not change prophesy. It will DRASTICALLY ALTER PROPHESY - OR OUR PERCEPTION THEREOF.

If the modern Jews are not real Jews, and these fake modern Jews are living in Palestine/State of Israel, then it's only logical that this attack that you speak of will not be directed toward the State of Israel, because there are not any real Jews who live there anymore.

Israel is a people, NOT A PIECE OF LAND. The land of Israel is wherever true Israel is to be found, be that Europe, or America. It's a hard concept to grasp when the whole Christian world is so fixated on the State of Israel. That's why I urge you to read this website and tell me what you think:

http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/lost-tribe-migration.htm

Jul 12, 2012
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But Who is Israel ?
by: Christopher

If you don't know who Israel is, then all these prophesies are meaningless. If it's true that merely following the Jewish religion, speaking Hebrew and calling yourself a Jew makes you Jewish then bear in mind the modern 'Jews' couldnt even speak Hebrew 100 years ago!

I could adopt Judaism right now and emigrate to Israel as a 'Jew', and then displace an Arab living there merely by being a convert to Judaism - as some of my distant relatives have done already.

The concept is as ridiculous as saying every Christian in the world today is a European and can therefore get an ancestoral visa and then citizenship in Europe if they want to.

The true Jews LOST THEIR IDENTITY in Assyrian captivity and those that evaded capture in Jerusalem, for the most part, became Christians. Those true Jews who did not become Christians at that time WILL mourn for the One they played a part in piercing, yes indeed! But the Edomite Jews will be destroyed!

What do you think of this link that proves the Isrealites of Assyrian captivity moved into Europe due to the ongoing threat to their South and East (Assyria, Babylon, Media, etc.)?

http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/lost-tribe-migration.htm

Jul 12, 2012
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Bible Prophecy
by: Lujack Skylark

I knew you were a white Christian for most your presentation deals with white nations being Jewish. I read about the Khazars being Jews and the Jews being Edomites also. Suppose they are?

Prophecy won't end differently. The attack when BOTH Iran and Russia come together to fight Israel will be Iran and Russia's final assault against modern day Israel.

The Bible STATES the Jews will look upon the one who they have pierced...Zechariah 12:10...(of course the Jews don't believe now.) The Jewish 144,000 Revelation chapter 7 haven't arrived yet to preach to them.

Your a Replacement Theology believer who believes after 70 A.D. the Jews have no place in Bible prophecy. The majority of people who believe this are Jehovah Witnesses, Roman Catholics, left wing Christians and the Nazis. You maybe secretly one of the four above or could have an independent view.

I merely read the words of the prophets in the Bible and BELIEVE they are right.

Jul 12, 2012
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The Western Biased Media
by: Christopher

Don't count your chickens before they hatch! The news media is always full of propaganda, especially when it comes to wars and war-mongering. Did you also believe Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11?

It is far more likely that Iran will be attacked first and not the other way around. The 'Israelis' (Edomites) have over 400 nuclear warhead's and America has over 10,000. Iran doesn't even have enough enriched uranium to build one. The media works with politicians to 'prepare' voters for war! To desensitize them and to turn the idea of defense in one of kill first, ask questions later. It happens all the time ! Have you forgotten about those Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction", or do you still believe Iraq is hiding those away from the West ?

Wake up!

The western biased "news" can be made to support any prophesy. And before you call me an Islamic fundamentalist, please note that I am a white Christian!

Study the Edomites, study the Khazars and then get back to me on your prophesies in Ezekiel. Israel was also prophesied to be "many nations", to inherit the abundance of the earth, even aeroplanes. Have the Jews ever been "many nations" or minorities within OTHER nations ? Have the Jews invented aeroplanes. Have the Jews "sucked the milk (knowledge) of the Gentiles" ? Do the Israeli 'Jews' live in peace, "without bars, or gates"? Do most of the 'Jews' accept Christ ? Have most of them accepted Him or denied Him for the past 2000 years. Christ's knows His sheep and they know Him, and follow Him as blinded as they are to their true identity.

Jul 11, 2012
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Suppose Herod was an Edomite
by: Lujack Skylark

Suppose Herod was an Edomite. Israel's enemies are still Russia and Iran as stated by the JEWISH prophet Ezekiel some 2600 years ago.

The news SHOWS RUSSIA supplying IRAN with weapons to fight against ISRAEL. Now do you call the PROPHET Ezekiel a liar?

Jul 11, 2012
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Assyria Took Most of Judea
by: Peter

You are actually correct Christopher. Assyria DID take most of Judea together with the 10 tribes, with exception of Jerusalem several hundred years before Christ and also before the later Babylonian captivity of Jerusalem.

2 Kings 18:13 "Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did Sennacherib king of ASSYRIA come up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them."

2 Kings 18:16 "At that time did Hezekiah cut off the gold from the doors of the temple of the LORD, and from the pillars which Hezekiah king of Judah had overlaid, and gave it to the king of Assyria." - to keep him away from Jerusalem !

Why is it that most Christians cannot see that if America & Europe are the Lost 10 or even 12 tribes of Israel, then prophesy concerning Iran can still affect Israel since the West is Israel and Iran with Russia, it's ally, is Communist; and WW III has long been expected to be a war of Communism against the West.

The modern Zionists secretly supported Communism as well, and it would make sense that they are Edomites. Zionist backed communists in Russia and oppressed Jews in Russia in an attempt to force them to emigrate to The State of Israel!

Jul 11, 2012
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WHO IS ISRAEL & WHO PRETENDS TO BE ISRAEL ?
by: Christopher

King Herod Was An Edomite!

Edomite territory was turned into a wilderness and remains a wilderness to this very day, HOWEVER - You said previously that:

"The Philistines and Edomites ceased to exist by the time Rome conquered Israel's Hashmonean dynasty in 63 B.C"

ABSOLUTE RUBBISH! King Herod and his father Herod the Great were Edomites! (Idumeans). Did King Herod and his cronies "cease to exist" at the time of Christ?

According to Wikipedia: "Herod (the Great - my brackets) was born around 74 BCE in the south (Idumea was the most southern region).[9][10] He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranked official under Ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean. Herod was a practicing Jew, as the Edomites and many Nabateans had been converted to Judaism by the Hasmoneans.[11] A loyal supporter of Hyrcanus II, Antipater appointed Herod governor of Galilee at 25, and his elder brother, Phasael, governor of Jerusalem." - source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great

If you dislike Wikpedia, try any other encyclopedia - do your homework and stop generalizing and misinterpreting prophesies.

Mark 8:15 "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod."

The false profit is in the churches!
The Edomites control Palestine today and pretend to be Israel:

Ezekiel 36:5 "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, AND AGAINST ALL IDUMEA, WHICH HAVE APPOINTED MY LAND INTO THEIR POSSESSION with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey."

The Edomites were converted to Judaism before Christ, and most true Jews believed in Christ and became known as Christians or were slaughtered by the Romans. Almost all of Judea, except Jerusalem, was taken captivity by Assyria centuries before that, together with the Lost 10 Tribes.

Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

Jul 10, 2012
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Ancient Israelites in America
by: Lujack Skylark

Was North America Biblical Ophir? Solomon's wealth came from all the kings of the earth. (2 Chronicles 9:23-24)

An interesting question and one puzzling possibility, however Bible prophecies given 2600 years ago by Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah and others relate to the Jews living in Israel today.

Persia/Iran and her allies will attack Israel like the prophet Ezekiel said, and Israel will win this war.

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