Are these the forefathers? What nations are they representing?

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May 10, 2011
thanks for info
by: chris

Just wanted to say thanks for the 12 pages of Noahs son. It's just as interesting as I remember the original take 30 years ago.

Is there a way to find out which brothers are at war now?

Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Libya,Syria; many of the Arab countries. Basically, the Middle East countries that are almost all Muslim.

I gathered the openmindness for Japeth's group was to receive the Lord, if He touched you.

May 09, 2011
The Prophet Elijah & Jesus Christ in Matthew 17
by: Shep Campbell

To understand what Jesus is saying here, and it can be a bit confusing, one must first turn to Malachi 4:5. It reads:

"Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord."

From this verse it was taught by the ancient sages that Elijah would have to appear first, before the Messiah. Only after Elijah would the Messiah appear. Elijah was to be the one who paved the way, "like a voice crying in the wilderness", for the coming of Messiah in the last days. It was taken for granted that Elijah would come first, then the Messiah would follow.

In Matthew 17 we have the Transfiguration taking place, where Moses and Elijah appeared to Christ. The disciples believed that Jesus was the Messiah, as He said he was, thus they were asking Him in verse 10, immediately after they witnessed this remarkable occasion, why "the scribes", or teachers, say Elijah must come first. The Messiah had already come, and the disciples knew Him to be Jesus Christ. They never saw Elijah.

Christ told them Elijah had come, in the person of John the Baptist. If the people of Jesus' time had accepted Him as the son of God, as the Messiah, then John the Baptist would have fulfilled the prophecy of Elijah; as John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah, proclaiming the Messiah as arrived.

That is what Jesus meant when He said, "they did not recognize him". Meaning, they did not recognize the spirit John the Baptist was preaching in. He was filled with the Spirit of God, as Elijah had been, and John the Baptist recognized Jesus for who He was. Thus, John the Baptist was, in essence, Elijah in spirit, and Christ was Messiah.

However, the scribes and Pharisees rejected John the Baptist, and Herod beheaded him, hence Christ's words in verse 12. Consequently, Christ suffered His redemptive death. Thus, Elijah will appear again, this time ushering in Christ as King over all nations.

Many scholars of the book of Revelation believe Elijah is one of the two witnesses who mysteriously appear in Revelation 11.

At least that's my take on it.

May 09, 2011
by: REX

One needs to look at Matthew 17:2-3. Its in the spirit of Moses and Elijah represented here.

Matthew 17:12 Elijah has already come - its in the spirit of Elijah.

Matthew 17:13 John the Baptist has already come. John the Baptist must have already died - for the son of man will likewise suffer with them.

Its Jesus who they are talking about in this one line verse.

May 05, 2011
by: Anonymous

I need an answer to refute a buddhist old friend I ran into. From Matthew 17, around verse 11 or so Jesus said Elijah has already come, and something about he was John the Baptist.

That's how she is making her argument for reincarnation. What do verses 12 and 13 mean?

May 05, 2011
by: REX

Abraham comes from the Shemitic/Semitic people's.
Abraham's oldest son was Ishmael. It was the Ishmaelite slave traders who bought Joseph, and brought him down into Egypt. (Genesis 37:25)

Ishmaelites have been slave traders throughout their history. Ishmael was the father of the Arab people, while Isaac was father of Jews. They were Abraham's sons by different mothers, thus they were half brothers.

There was little conflict between Arabs and Jews; until Mohammed rose to power when he fled Mecca for Medina in 622 A.D. The year 637 A.D. the Arabs take over Saudi Arabia; and in 700-749 A.D. the Arab empire extends from Lisbon to China.

Charles Martel defeats the Arabs at Tours, France stopping their advancement in Europe.

The Moslem Turks (1517-1917 A.D.) hold domination over Israel these 400 years. Israel is a swamp land wilderness. The Jews then drain the swamps, and Arab migrant workers flock into Israel.

The Arabs were given Jordan as their Arab nation in 1922 A.D., while Israel was given the land west of the Jordan river. Now, the Arabs want half of Israel's land west of the Jordan river.

This is what the conflict is all about. Past treaties signed before World War II show Jordan as the land for the Arabs, and Israel is the land for the Jews; but these treaties are not honored today.

May 04, 2011
Noah's three Sons
by: Lujack Skylark

Noah's son Shem was father of the Semitic people. Shem was father of the Elamites, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Lydians and Arameans.

Noah's son Japheth was the father of the Germans, Scythians, Persians, Greeks,Siberians,Russians and Italians.

Noah's son Ham was the father of the Black Africans, Egyptians, Libyans and Canaanites.

This is my personal viewpoint. There might be other answers. I obtained this information many years ago. I now can't find the book.

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