Who Killed Jesus?

by Christopher

"1 ¶ Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.

2 And the Roman soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,
3 And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands.
4 Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.
5 Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!
6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
8 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid;
9 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away."
John 19:1-16

To repeat: "Then delivered he Pilate him Christ therefore unto them THE JEWS to be crucified. And they THE JEWS took Jesus, and led him away." John 19:1-16

Did Christ really say : "forgive them for they know not what they do" ? OR did he really say "forgive them NOT for they KNOW what they do" ?

Have
Christian sheep had their wool pulled over their eyes again with this one. Has this been a deliberate mistranslation inspired by Zionist anti-christ "experts" who direct our Christian Bibles seminaries since time immemorial to prevent "anti-semitism" in the Western world? Here is a clue to the answer in an Old Testament prophesy of His crucifixion:

"20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.
21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
22 ¶ Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.
23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.
25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.
26 For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the grief of those whom thou hast wounded.
27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness.
28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous."
Psalms 69:20-28

Edomite imposters calling themselves Jews - they murdered Christ! Read about what religion the Edomites converted to in any encyclopedia. And read what Christ said about them:

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Revelation 3:9

About 1000 years later the prophesied Russian Gog and Magog (Khazars - mongoloid hordes) converted to Judaism and intermarried with the Edomite Jews (Esau: their converters), forming what became known as the Ashkhenazi Jews of Eastern Europe - the majority of today's modern "Jews".

WAKE UP SHEEPLE! DIDN'T CHRIST SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE HARMLESS AS DOVES, BUT WISE AS SERPENTS AMIDST THE WOLVES!

"How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!" Obadiah 1:6

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." Revelation 2:9

"I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau..." Malachi 1:2-3

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Oct 03, 2012
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Blood & flesh
by: Christopher

Eating his blood and drinking his flesh was symbolic and He never meant it literally. The wine REPRESENTED his blood, and the bread REPRESENTED His flesh. People don't drink blood to remember Him! They drink wine.

You have to live your life trying to be like Christ, and do as He did, keep God's laws like He did, be circumcised like He did, keep the Passover like He did, "consume" so to speak everything He stood for and make it a part of you; and in that way "consume", so to speak, His body.

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Who Killed Jesus
by: Anonymous

I have read that portion, and people say the Jesus was the final sacrifice. According to the Almighty, he gave specific Instructions on how to conduct a Sacrifice Ritual.

According to the New Testament version, A High Priest, not a Roman Soldier, was supposed to perform a Ritual. Jesus was too old, because the sacrificial lamb is to be One Year old. Another thing I am researching is how come people do a ritual of drinking his blood and eating his flesh.

According to Scripture, blood drinking is forbidden, as is eating Human Flesh.

Jul 05, 2012
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Remnant of the 10 tribes
by: Christopher

You are right in saying "A remnant remained in Samaria!" ONLY A REMNANT - but not most of them! As I explained below:

Jul 05, 2012
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So Christ is a Liar Then is He?
by: Christopher

So Christ is a liar then is He? They WERE - OFFICIALY - lost to the general public, but Christ and His disciples knew where His true lost sheep were, as I quoted Him saying below.

Most of the 10 tribes, and actually most of Judea as well, was taken into Assyrian captivity before Babylon attacked Jerusalem. They escaped and spread into Eastern Europe over many generations, and headed westward - "ever westward" as the saying goes. They are now know collectively as "The West".

Linsguistics and ancient artifacts have proven it - see: http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/lost-tribe-migration.htm

Jul 05, 2012
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The 10 Tribes
by: Anonymous

Hezekiah invited ALL of ISRAEL, even THOSE escaping the hand of Assyrian kings, to the passover in Jerusalem. (2 Chronicles 30:5-6)

The 10 tribes did not disappear in Hezekiah's lifetime! A remnant remained in Samaria! They were not lost.

Jul 05, 2012
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Edomites ARE not Gentiles but Canaanites
by: Christopher

The Hebrews came out of Gentile stock, and out of the Hebrews came the Israelites (a portion of which make up the true Judean Jews). The Gentiles are racially identical to the ancient Israelites - In fact the Israelites are part Syrian.

Genesis 25:20 "And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian."

This is why Gentiles are allowed to inter-marry by God with the Israelites. However, the Edomites are a mixture of Jacob's brother Esau and the Canaanites - a racially mixed people forbidden by God to intermarry with the Israelites.

Deuteronomy 23:2 "A bastard (Hebrew = mongrel) shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD."

Nowhere in the Bible does God allow the "Canaanites", "Edomites", "bastards" (mongrels), or "mixed multitude" to inter-marry with the Israelites - even upon conversion to the belief in the true God (Yahweh). Christ did not do away with these laws of racial seperation AMONGST OTHERS that formed part of the Law of Moses.

Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the (EXISTING) law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Nehemiah 13:3 "Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude."

Matthew 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Zechariah 14:21 "Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there SHALL BE NO MORE THE CANAANITE in the house of the LORD of hosts."

Not "they will be allowed if they convert"

Matthew 15:24 "But He answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

James 1:1 "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the TWELVE TRIBES which are scattered abroad, greeting."

10 OF WHICH WHERE NEVER KNOWN AS JEWS! BUT RATHER SAMARITANS FROM SAMARIA OR SURROUNDING TOWNS - THE NORTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL!

Jul 04, 2012
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Ruth
by: Anonymous

Ruth was a Gentile believer in Israel's God. She is counted as an ancestor of Jesus Christ. Any Edomites coming to be Jewish were counted as Jews.

There is a territory called Edom (Daniel 11:41) now considered to be part of modern Jordan. These people are ARABS who are living there not Jews.

Jews live in Israel. Jews speak the Hebrew language. The Jewish prophet Ezekiel in Ezekiel 36:24 stated the Jews will return home. Israel was reborn on May 14,1948 according to the history books.

Israel fought four major wars in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 as also found in the history books.

Jul 04, 2012
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ONE SUBJECT AT A TIME!
by: Anonymous

Are you people unable to stick to one subject at a time? I'm trying to tell you that you are misinterpreting prophesy. Please answer my previous post about Herod being an Edomite (Idumean):

Edomite territory was turned into a wilderness and remains a wilderness to this very day, HOWEVER THE EDOMITES WERE NEVER ENTIRELY DESTROYED, LIKE THE TRUE JEWS WERE NEVER ENTIRELY DESTROYED. THE EDOMITES FULL DESTRUCTION IS STILL COMING - Obadiah 1:18 "And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it."

- You say : "The Philistines and Edomites ceased to exist by the time Rome conquered Israel's Hashmonean dynasty in 63 B.C" - ABSOLUTE RUBBISH ! King Herod and his father Herod the Great were Edomites ! (Idumeans). Did King Herod and his cronies "cease to exist" at the time of Christ ?

According to Wikipedia: "Herod (the Great - my brackets) was born around 74 BCE in the south (Idumea was the most southern region).[9][10] He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranked official under Ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean. Herod was a practicing Jew, as the Edomites and many Nabateans had been converted to Judaism by the Hasmoneans.[11] A loyal supporter of Hyrcanus II, Antipater appointed Herod governor of Galilee at 25, and his elder brother, Phasael, governor of Jerusalem." - source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great

Mark 8:15 "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod."

If you dislike Wikpedia, try any other encyclopedia - do your homework and stop genrealising and misinterpreting prophesies. The false profit is in the churches ! If the Devil cant destroy God's people the true Israelites in warefar, He uses Israels enemies to infiltrate them and steal their identity - what better way is there to destroy the true Judean Jews, than for their enemies to pretend to be Jews ? Rediculous you say ? - Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

Jul 04, 2012
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Prophecies
by: Anonymous

Anyone reading a newspaper can see Persia/Iran is Israel's enemy, and Persia/Iran is listed 1st in Ezekiel 38:5

The prophet has told us the truth!

Jul 03, 2012
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King Herod Was An Edomite!
by: Christopher

Edomite territory was turned into a wilderness and remains a wilderness to this very day, HOWEVER - You say :

"The Philistines and Edomites ceased to exist by the time Rome conquered Israel's Hashmonean dynasty in 63 B.C"

ABSOLUTE RUBBISH! King Herod and his father Herod the Great were Edomites! (Idumeans). Did King Herod and his cronies "cease to exist" at the time of Christ?

According to Wikipedia: "Herod (the Great - my brackets) was born around 74 BCE in the south (Idumea was the most southern region).[9][10] He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranked official under Ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean. Herod was a practicing Jew, as the Edomites and many Nabateans had been converted to Judaism by the Hasmoneans.[11] A loyal supporter of Hyrcanus II, Antipater appointed Herod governor of Galilee at 25, and his elder brother, Phasael, governor of Jerusalem." - source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great

If you dislike Wikpedia, try any other encyclopedia - do your homework and stop generalizing and misinterpreting prophesies.

The false profit is in the churches!

Jun 30, 2012
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Jewish Jesus Christ and Bible Prophecy
by: Lujack Skylark

The Philistines and Edomites ceased to exist by the time Rome conquered Israel's Hashmonean dynasty in 63 B.C. God's prophet Obadiah stated in Obadiah 1:10 for their violence against Israel they will be cut off forever.

Israel in Roman days was populated by Jews, and the Edomites were not Jewish. The Jewish prophecies written 2500 years ago are coming true as we can see by observing new casts on developing stories in the Middle-East.

The United Nations is in its prophetic position where the world nations hate Israel.

Iran and Russia are aligned for a future attack against Israel.

A One World Government is formulating where a future one world ruler will cause, by peace, the death of many after Russia and Iran are defeated in war.

A One World Government will exist for 7 years and come against Jerusalem before the Lord returns. (Zechariah 14:2-9)

Jesus died for everyone, paying the ultimate sacrifice for humanities sins. Jesus will reign over the entire world after the power of the anti-Christ has been destroyed.

Already animals and some elderly in nursing homes are being chipped. It will not be too many years before Revelation 13:16-17 takes place. The world's society will just consist of the rich and poor, with no middle-class; and Europe and the USA's economies are eliminating middle-class jobs right now.

Damascus has never been a city wiped out in one day. The day is coming when Damascus will be wiped out in one day. (Isaiah 17)

Humanity may laugh at these prophecies, yet they are all coming true. All the prophecies were written by Jews pertaining to the Jewish people despite what Replacement of Israel theological believers embrace. The prophecies will happen no matter how long the disbelievers shake their heads.

Jun 30, 2012
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Edomites Did Not Kill Jesus
by: Walter

Edomites and Jews were two separate people. The Edomites looked on when the Jews were sent into Babylonian captivity, and God said the Edomites living on the mount of Esau would be slaughtered.
(Obadiah 1:11-12) & (Obadiah 1:9-10)

The Jews shall possess the mount of Esau. (Obadiah 1:19) When? After Alexander the Great left Jerusalem, Alexander destroyed the Philistines on his way to Egypt. The Jews then controlled the plain of the Philistines, fields of Ephraim and the fields of Samaria. Gilead and Esau's Edomite kingdom was judged to be the Lord's. (Obadiah 1:19-21) Apparently, Alexander the Great brought an end to the Edomites as well as the Philistines.

The Edomites therefore did not kill Jesus as we discover by reviewing true ancient history.


Jun 30, 2012
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Anti-Semites
by: John

Anti-Semites believe since 70 A.D. Bible prophecy does not pertain to the Jews, even though God says the Jews would recreate their nation - like Ezekiel 36:24 states.

May 14, 1948 this prophecy was fulfilled.

God says Jerusalem will be a battle ground for all nations. Israel needed to secure Jerusalem before this prophecy could be fulfilled. June 1967 the Jews secured Jerusalem.

Nazi's, Jehovah Witnesses and the Roman Catholic church and other liberal churches don't believe in Bible prophecy. They believe their doctrines are the truth even though Bible prophecy is taking place before our very eyes.

Jun 30, 2012
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Who are the Terrorists?
by: Tom

Who are the terrorists launching missles into southern Israel? The Arab terrorists homeland is Jordan, not Judea and Samaria. The Balfour Declaration set aside Jordan for the Arabs and Israel for the Jews.

The Jewish prophets told us Jesus would die for humanities sins - both Jews and Gentiles. The Jewish prophets told us the Jews would be hated by All nations, so its no surprise in this modern world that humanity hates Israel. (Zechariah 14:2-9)

The hate will finally end when the Lord returns.

Jun 28, 2012
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What is an anti-semite ?
by: Anonymous

Your false branding doesn't work on me. The Jews are the world's biggest anti-semites, but I guess you probably wouldn'd consider the people they slaughter (the Arabs) to be semites would you ? And how can a flag shine brightly when it's dripping with so much Palestinian blood ? Go do some reading in any encyclopedia about the ancient Edomites and which religion they converted to shorty before the time of Christ. John Hyrcanus, or Hycanus converted them to Judaism. Then read your Bible and see the prophesies of Edom being desroyed and how God hates the Edomites. If knowing ancient history and knowing the Bible makes me an anti-Semite then so be it ! God doesn't love imposters ! Those who "call themselves Jews, but do lie." Those of "the synagogue of Satan" Was Christ also an anti-semite ? I am an anti-Edomite, not an anti-Semite. Try wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hyrcanus Then go research the Khazars - WAKE UP ! The Israelites are only prophesied to return to Palestine after the Second Coming of Christ. Read your Bible in context for yourself and not thrught your minister's Judaized eyes. Ezekiel 38:11-12 prophesies of Gog & Magog "And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of UNWALLED villages; I will go to them that are AT REST, that DWELL SAFELY, all of them dwelling WITHOUT WALLS, and having NEITHER BARS NOR GATES to take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land." Argue the facts and not the person ! Discredit my facts, dont add opposite "facts" - facts that are so vaguely fulfilled in any case !

Jun 28, 2012
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Christopher
by: Walter

Are you an anti-Semite?

The Jews have returned home from heathen nations. (Ezekiel 36:24)Their flag shines brightly over Israel as witnessed on May 14,1948.

The Jews have conquered Jerusalem in June 1967. Jerusalem will be in the news until the Lord returns. (Zechariah 14:2-9)

Its a simple reading for all those searching for the truth.

Jun 28, 2012
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Both Jews & Romans - RUBBISH !
by: Christopher

Rex, you say: "Both Jews and Roman soldiers were inhabitants of Jerusalem. Both were responsible for Jesus Christ's death." - However, Pilate WASHED HIS HANDS OFF THE MATTER, because he was so tired of the manipulations of the Edomite imposter ('leaven') "Jewish" Pharisee priests! They even tried to make out he - Pilate - as trying to make himself above Caesar. Matthew 27:24 says: "When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it." Do you no longer read your Bible Rex ? Or are you also one of these anti-Christ "leaven" Edomite Jews trying to pervert Christianity from within ? Leaven has always been a sign of impurity in the Bible (racial, or spititual or both) and is banned during Passover.

Mark 8:15 "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod." - Christ couldnt risk being crucified BEFORE He fulfilled his mission and so couldn't openly accuse them of being imposters and not real Jewsm, but He came so close on many occasions. e.g. Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

King Herod was also an Edomite imposter just like the Pharisees. Even certain real - non-Edomite - Jews went along with it because they were scared of being put out of the priesthood:
John 2:23 says: "Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, MANY believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did."
John 8:30 "As he spake these words, MANY believed on him."
John 10:42 "And MANY believed on him there."
John 12:42 "Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" - THOSE TRUE JUDEAN CHIEF RULERS - NOT EDOMITE IMPOSTERS.
Matthew 27:20 "But the chief priests and elders PERSUADED the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus."

Jun 27, 2012
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Who Killed Jesus?
by: Rex

The House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem will look upon me whom they have pierced... (Zechariah 12:10)

Both Jews of the House of David AND Inhabitants of Jerusalem were responsible for Jesus death.
Both Jews and Roman soldiers were inhabitants of Jerusalem. Both were responsible for Jesus Christ's death.

Jun 27, 2012
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Correction on my article
by: Christopher

Some words that I put in brackets came out in bold instead after I posted it. Words like Roman and Pilate, etc. I think all the bold words were originally written by me in brackets, so just imagine the brackets. Please bear in mind when reading. Apologies.

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