The Edomites

by Anonymous
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The Edomites were descended from Esau who was renamed Edom. Esau was Jacobs brother and Jacob was later renamed Israel. He was the father of 12 sons who became the Israelites, or 12 tribes of Israel.


However Esau (to the dismay of his parents) intermarried with the Canaanite tribes (whom the Israelites were forbidden from intermarrying with). Ever since this point his new descendants - the Edomites or Idumeans - became enemies of Israel.

It's quite strange, since Jacob intermarried with Rachel and Leah, who were daughters of Laban, who was a Syrian. Surely the Syrians who were not Israelites would have also been forbidden for inter-marriage with Istraelites. They also followed strange Gods didn't they? So did the Egyptians, and yet Abraham had a child by an Egyptian (Hagar).

The Edomites continually warred with the Israelites. They hated them even during the time of Christ. However, shortly before Christ, a Maccabean Jew by the name of John Hycanus conquered and then converted the Edomites to Judaism. You would think since they hated the Jews they would only tolerate their religion as long as they were forced to, yet they ended up flourishing under it.

So much so - and to such an extent did they influence the Romans to favour them - that the Romans appointed one of them as governor of Judea, overlooking the choice of many true native Jews for the position.

They appointed Antipar (an Idumean or Edomite) to the position, and he later appointed his son Herod as King of the Jews. Herod was condemned by Christ, and killed all the first born in an attempt to kill the prophesied Messiah at birth. If this was their level of influence (through lies and corruption) in politics, you can only imagine the influence they eventually gained in the temples with the priests of Judah (the Pharisees and Saducees).

Christ said: "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees" Leaven was always a sign or spiritual or even physical (racial ?) impurity. Shocked by this comment ? Well then you obviously haven't been reading your Bible enough now have you. Christ also said to those specific Jews who chose to reject Him :

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
~ REVELATION 2:9

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." ~ REVELATION 3:9

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." John 8:44

26 "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John
10:26-28)

These are the Jews who crucified Christ: John 19:1-16
"1 ¶ Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.
2 And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,
3 And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands.
4 Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.
5 Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!
6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
8 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid;
9 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
16 ¶ Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away."

Most or maybe even all of the Jews who denied Christ were Edomite imposters and most of those who accepted Him were true Judean Jews of the line of the tribe of Judah. Those who did believe Him became known as Christians and not Jews any longer and these Edomite Jews who were particularly strong and numerous in the synagogues became the Talmudic Rabbi Jews of the Middle Ages and the Jews who also converted a half Mongoloid people (the Khazars) to Judaism - a distorted form of the belief in the God of Abraham (Jehovah or Yahweh) mixed with all sorts of anti-Christ hatred and ridiculous Dark ages customs and beliefs.

Along with the Babylonian Kabbalah being taught by their Rabbi's they form a formidable anti-Christian group today and secretly control the Christian seminaries (the "False profit" of prophesy) promoting the pro-Israeli state to the tune of millions of US dollars in voluntary and in-voluntary (tax) donations towards their cause.

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Dec 26, 2012
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The Old Testament Prophet Zecheriah
by: John

You don't read the Holy Scriptures, in Zechariah 12:10-11 at the Valley of Megiddon they will mourn for him who they have pierced. Christ was pierced by a Roman spear at the time the Jews rejected him; and its when the world attacks Jerusalem Zechariah 14:2 the Lord shall appear and the remaining Jews will believe. Then Christ will be worshiped by the whole world. Zechariah 14:9.

Apr 16, 2012
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Jewish Imposters
by: Anonymous

Is this Israeli nation blessed by God, with the riches of the deep or the mountains, or the abundant harvests of the earth, or by foolish, brainwashed American Christian taxpayers "donations" and involuntary US tax dollars?

Are these Christian nations that you speak of Jewish?

And why have the Jews rejected Christ for 2000 years and continue to do so today (majority of them) with no end in sight.

Their ancestors were Edomite imposters who crucified Christ, controlled the seminaries (leaven of the Pharisees), and controlled the trade on the temple tables that Christ overturned, just like they control the seminaries, banks and corporate companies today.

They cannot be blessed because they are "not of" His sheep. They can only steal our blessings and our birthright as true Israelites, and fool us into giving up our blessings to them and worship them!

Mar 12, 2012
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Genesis 35:11
by: John

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a NATION and a COMPANY of NATIONS shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. (Genesis 35:11)

A NATION = Present Day Jewish nation.

A COMPANY of NATIONS = Christian nations.

Mar 12, 2012
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Israel's Blessing's
by: Anonymous (author)

So anonymous & Tom refuse to answer my question about why prophesies only point to a return to Palestine timeframe after Christ returns and never before, maybe you can both answer these questions below:

How do the modern "Jews" fulful these prophesies to Jacob?:

Genesis 35:11 "And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations (Commonwealth) shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins"

Which NATIONS and COMPANY OF NATIONS have the Jews produced (remember they were only 1 of the 12 tribes) ?

And what about this prophesy to Jacob (not Esau whose descendants were cursed), through Isaac: "And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these COUNTRIES, and in thy seed shall ALL THE NATIONS of the earth be BLESSED Genesis 26:4 -
Which nations have the Jews blessed ? Which nations have the Jews converted to Christianity ? In fact what nations have the Jews converted to anything - even Judaism ?!! The Jews have done nothing except become expelled from every nation from which they have existed. They have done nothing over centuries except build a reputation for being greedy - not for blesing anyone !

Which nations have Britian and America blessed in AID - and through spreading Christianity around the entire planet ? Which nations have inherrited the material blessings promised to Joseph ?

"And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the LORD be his land, for the precious things of heaven (rain), for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath (wealth of the oceans).
And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun (abundance of agriculture), and for the precious things put forth by the moon...and for the precious things of the lasting hills (mineral wealth, oil and coal, gas, etc.), And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush (Yahweh): let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph...His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns (on the British coat of arms): with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim (England), and they are the thousands of Manasseh (America)." Deuteronomy 33:13-17

Have the Jews inherited what Britain & America have inherited? The Jews have inherited nothing but persecution and have now finally managed to trick the West into supporting them, without whose financial AID they would be totally bankrupt. "And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the MOTHER OF THOUSANDS OF MILLIONS, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them." Genesis 24:60 - Have the Jews ever been thousands of million in number ? Their population has remained stagnant for hundreds of years ! The world's western population number almost a billion.

Mar 12, 2012
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Endtime Prophecies
by: Tom

And the gospel of the kingdom will be preached to the whole world and then the end shall come..

When ye therefore see the Abomination of Desolation stand in the Holy place (Jerusalem)let them in Judea flee into the mountains.

Matthew 24:14-16 The third Jewish temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem by Jews.

The man of sin will be revealed who opposeth and exalted himself above all that is called God... he sitteh in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4

Matthew was a Jew speaking about Jews fleeing from their holy place in the last days while the gospel is being preached to the whole world and the anti-Christ whom hates the Jews will sit in God's Holy temple in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is mentioned so many times in Bible prophecy but some people invent other areas of our world having nothing to do with Jews.

Mar 12, 2012
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NOT ENOUGH PROOF
by: Anonymous

That is not enough proof of the TIMEFRAME! Israel will be brought back to Palestine (whether this quote means Palestine). The question is WHEN. If we can determine WHEN, then we can determine if modern "Jews" are imposters. As I said, How do you explain the fact that prophesy ONLY indicates that the Israelites will return to Israel AFTER Christ returns?

I can show you many prophesies that indicate it will be AFTER His return (EG. WITH THE SICK AND LAME). Can you show me any prophesies that show it will happen before?

Mar 12, 2012
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Ezekiel 36:24
by: Anonymous

Ezekiel 36:24 clearly states God will take the Hebrews out of the nations and bring them back to their own LAND. A Jewish prophet talking about his Jewish people. May 14,1948 Israel was reborn.

Mar 12, 2012
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TIMING OF ISRAEL'S RETURN
by: Anonymous

How do you explain the fact that prophesy ONLY indicates that the Israelites will return to Israel AFTER Christ returns?

I can show you many prophesies that indicate it will be AFTER His return. Can you show me any prophesies that show it will happen before?

Mar 11, 2012
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The Edomites
by: Tom

Zechariah 12:3 states Jerusalem will become a burdensome stone and all those who come against it will be dashed to pieces.

Bible prophecy is centered around Jerusalem. Aren't the Edomites near the neighborhood of Jerusalem?

Mar 10, 2012
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Jews Are Many Colors as the Prophecies Ring True
by: Anonymous

The unwalled villages in Israel occurs AFTER Israel has defeated the Moslem terrorists along her borders, uprooting them.

The attack against Israel comes when Russia and Iran go after Israel's great SPOIL, the oil and natural gas reserves Israel has recently found off her coast. MORE JEWS RETURN TO ISRAEL AFTER THIS VICTORY.

The timing of the attack occurs before the Lord returns.

Some Jews may have blended in with the Edomites, Khazars and Europeans. Israel has black Ethiopian Jews and many other color Jews. One Jewish tribe has been located in India.

This still does not change the prophecy, for the third Jewish temple shall arise after Russia and Iran are defeated, since the anti-Christ shall stand in the temple of God before Christ returns.
The anti-Christ will pretend he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:4)

The Temple Mount Faithful already have plans to build this third temple.

The anti-Christ offers the world a false peace after Iran and Russia's power is destroyed.

Then the Lord returns.

You have spoken about timing of the Lord's return. All the prophecies have to come true before Jesus returns.

Mar 09, 2012
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The Edomites
by: Louis (London)

The ancient Egyptians were not White people. The paintings and sculptures disprove this. Herodotus (about 400 BC) himself said they were a Black people. It is important that we get this accurate.
The ancient Israelites were intermarriage between the Shem and Ham lines.

Furthermore, the exact location of all of the Israelite people today cannot be known for certain as they have surely intermarried with the rest of humanity.

The Israelite nation was a nation of a family; the main aim was to preserve the Word of God; and to secure the pure human line of the coming of the Messiah, Yeshua. The genealogy of the Christ shows that as long as the line was humanly pure and follows God’s laws, race does not come in because the Messiah was to be the second Adam -- the ancestor of all humanity before the fall – the perfect man.

After the coming and resurrection of the Messiah, the Israelite nation became international as they had fulfilled the first prophesy. The next time the Israel family meets again will be during the Second Coming; and to fulfil the second prophesy as made known in the Revelations. At that time, God will gather the Israelite peoples from all corners of the earth; and including all who believe in the Messiah as the Saviour, the Christians as well as a pre-condition for inclusion.

It is true that the living 144,000 given in Revelations will be from the genetic descendants of the original twelve tribes of ancient Israel because they were specifically named in the Revelations of St. John. But it is a daunting task to know where exactly they are at the moment. What we have now is mere speculation. The truth is: we cannot pinpoint the individual tribes in all exactitude inthis day and age.

Mar 09, 2012
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The Modern Jews
by: Anonymous

Here is a link to my other article on the same subject with more information - you can copy and past this link into your address bar above :

http://www.israel-a-history-of.com/the-modern-jews1.html

And here is another link to an article with full historical, linguistic and archeological evidence of the Lost 10 tribes migrating from Assyrian captivity into Europe in about 700 BC. Go to this web address for all the evidence then leave a comment telling me what you think

http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/lost-tribe-migration.htm

I've left a comment below as well. See below this comment.

Mar 09, 2012
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Modern Jews Are Edomites and Khazars
by: Anonymous (author of this aticle)

Please try to stick to the point I'm making and try not to revert back to Gog and Persia, where you just keep repeating yourself without any reference to my explanation of those events, anonymous.

What are your comments on the land of unwalled villages and all the prophesies pointing to a return to Israel of the Israelites only after the Second Coming ?

I am not part, specifically, of what you call replacement theology as you explained it, in that I don't believe that Christians are entitled to be called Israel based purely on the fact that we follow a Christian belief. I believe that racially we have a right to be called Israelites, as we are their direct genetic descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel.

The Assyrians conquered the ("Lost") 10 tribes of Israel and also most of Judea (all Judean cities except Jerusalem) and then all the captives eventually escaped Assyrian and headed north westward into Europe and away from all the threats in the Middle East.

At this stage Northern Europe was almost uninhabited, unlike Southern Europe. The Israelites were allowed to intermarry with other white nations like Egyptians and Syrians, but not Edomites and Canaanites since they were a mixed mongrel nation.

Don't believe me? See Deuteronomy 23:2 "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Look up the word "bastard" in the Hard cover, (maroon) 3 inch thick edition of Strongs Exhaustive concordance of the Bible with Hebrew Chaldee and Greek dictionaries. It says "mongrel".

This verse goes on to say: "even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever" How can not be due to racial reasons! Why is nobody taking me to task over the fact that modern Jews are Edomites and Khazars. Is it because nobody can disprove this fact?

Mar 09, 2012
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The Edomites/ Canaanites/Judaens
by: David Sheriff

All the Bible really shows in the Old Testament is that man was killing since day one! Tribalism was rife then, not marrying into one tribe or another. Nothing has changed in over 2000 years; all the races of the Earth are different, why .....discord and lack of understanding......what we were seeing then is no different to what we are seeing today.

It´s the same as supporters of Real Madrid & Barcelona...different tribes warring, it´s a disjointed World..it has been since man was created/produced....we have no intelligence and to think we have the self righteous arrogance to go in search of intelligent life in the Universe makes me laugh....millions die every year in the name of their God.

Millions die of disease and starvation eery year... wars suit the businessman and the International Bankers, the truth is no-one follows their religion correctly any more.They are but one and the same anyway.

Mar 09, 2012
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The Edomites
by: Louis (London)

Great writing on Esau and Jacob, tracing ancient Israelite lines and today’s Israel. However, the hatred or rivalry between the twins was not fully based on race, as a good number of Christ's descendants were not actually directly from the family of Israel.

For instance, Luke 3:23-38 lists the genealogy of the Messiah's ancestors on His mother's side; and Joseph or Jose (descendants of Joseph) and Levi feature prominently. Joseph's wife was Asenath, the Egyptian, and whose father, Potiphera, was the Priest of On in Egypt.

I think the enmity between Esau and Jacob was rooted on the selling of the birth right by Esau and the tricking of Esau from receiving a Blessing from Isaac. He compounded the matter by marrying women his parents disapproved.

Abraham was from a priestly and ruling class; and a prophet. In those days, the ruling and priestly class married within their families to preserve the pure line through whom the Messiah would come. Although the Egyptians were worshiping false gods, they were aware of the coming of the Messiah; and so the ruling and priestly class also practiced this kind of marriages within blood lines.

Remember that the Fallen Angels at first disrupted and corrupted the human line. I believe Abraham and Isaac were being careful that this does not occur again by marrying only those they can specifically identify by blood line. Although Rebecca was from Aram, she was Isaac's relative.

Abraham was living in Canaan. Narrations in the Bible provide evidence that descendants of the fallen angels were still living there right up to the time of David. Goliath appears to be one of them. Moses sent spies who saw Giants in Canaan before the Israelite conquest.

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Jews in Bible Prophecy
by: Anonymous

There are many Christian churches stating the Jews are no longer Israelites. These are Replacement Theology believers whom believe the Church is now Israel. They believe they are the blessed ones.

Jehovah Witnesses even believe they are part of the Jewish 144,000 in Revelation chapter 7.

God says, "I know thy works,and tribulation and poverty, (but thou are rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not,but the synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9)

Prophet Ezekiel was a Jew who wrote about the latter day Israelites some 2500 years ago when he stated Israel's enemies would perish upon the mountains of Israel. (Ezekiel 39:1-6)

Persia/Iran - Ezekiel 38:5 - along with its allies attack Israel when the world merely watches. These enemies shall turn upon one another. (Ezekiel 38:21)

We can watch on television, Russia (Gog)continues to supply Israel's enemies with weapons. We can witness Iranian Ahmadinejad threaten Israel everyday.

Its amazing how accurate Ezekiel was, like in Ezekiel 36:24, Ezekiel predicted the Jews from around the world would RETURN to THEIR OWN LAND. (Israel's recreation May 14,1948)

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