Sons of Noah & Nimrod - Their Descendants

by Mayang
(Philippines)

My comments on Youth Pastor CJ of California. On his writing "Where Did You Get This"



The curse fell on Canaan. Yeah. The descendants of Canaan became enslaved by descendants of Japheth and Shem. For instance: The brown race of Philippines on 1600 to 1800 AD (decendants of Canaan) were enslaved by the Spanish colonizers (descendants of Japheth) those years. The Spanish colonizers are wrong enslaving the brown Philipinos.

There's a natural law: Don't treat other people unfairly, don't enslave other people. It's a natural law, a Law of Nature. Even if it's prophesied that descendants of Canaan will be enslaved, it's wrong to enslave the descendants of Canaan.

But what the Spanish Colonizers did is vengeance on the Moors, who ruled Spain for 700 years. But the Spanish Colonizers were supposed to enslave the Moors and descendants of Mizraim (Mizraim is ancestor of the Moors). The Spanish Colonizers took vengeance on the wrong persons. They were supposed to take vengeance on the Moors, or descendants of Mizraim.

About Cush, the brother of Canaan and Mizraim: he did not receive the curse from Noah. Cush and his descendants such as Nimrod are blessed. Nimrod, with a rebellious heart, initiated the creation of Tower Of Babel, rebelled against God and formed empires and made his own religion. Nimrod formed/made his own religion.

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Sons of Noah & Nimrod - Their Descendants
by: Louis (London)

Now coming to Cush and his son Nimrod, this idea of Nimrod being a rebel cannot be supported by the Scriptures. In the Table of Nations, this is what is written:

"And Cush begot Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one on earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, "Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD". And the beginning of his Kingdom was Babel, Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. Out of that land went forth Asshur, and built Niniveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, and Resen between Niniveh and Calah: the same is a great City." Gen 10: 8 -12.

Nowhere in the above verses was Nimrod condemned! Building cities and becoming a powerful leader and hunter is NOT a sin. Are we saying all those who built/founded the modern cities of London, New York, Tokyo are all sinful people? It is what we do with the city and the intent that matters. That later generations may corrupt the city against the will of God does not make the original founder a rebel. Surely, Nimrod was a prodigy, a man of no mean gifts, feat and talent, the first visionary after the flood and that is why he alone has a brief history in the table of Nations. This, however, does not mean that he was perfect. As all humans, he also was a sinner. Yet it would be wrong to take the bible out of context; adding onto it.

Interestingly a mention was made of Asshur as part of the House of Ham who went forth from the works of Nimrod! Asshur was Shem's son. Which brings us to the mysterious question? Why was Asshur included in Ham's House and relating to the achievement of Nimrod? Was Asshur a direct relative of Nimrod? Was he another Asshur different from Shem's son?

The Tower of Babel: the place was named Babel AFTER the attempted rebellion by man as a WHOLE and NOT by Nimrod alone. All men were guilty of this rebellion. So, there is strong evidence that Nimrod built Babel AFTER God scattered the nations and NOT before the scattering of nations; and why the Table of Nations emphasised on "their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations."

Before Babel, every person spoke the SAME language, and was all living in the SAME place -- around Shinar. So, how could Nimrod, who clearly spoke a sort of Cushitic-Semitic tongue possibly, supervise those who spoke completely different languages and tongues?

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Sons of Noah & Nimrod - Their Descendants
by: Louis (London)

This is what Noah said:

"Cursed be Canaan: a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren". And he said, "Blessed be the LORD God of Shem, and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem, and Canaan shall be his servant."

There is a whole range of misinterpretation of this prophesy. The above quotation from Noah did NOT specifically state that this will affect the future generation of Canaan FOREVER. The curse appears to fall to Canaan himself or his immediate generation. This prophesy might have been fulfilled when the Israelite nation occupied Canaan's land as promised by God. After this event, it is clear that the Israelite nation intermarried with the Canaanite. So, to keep claiming that the curse continues to stand is to attack the people of God and possibly Yeshua, the Messiah Himself.

There is nowhere in this prophesy that orders Japheth or Shem to wilfully enslave Canaan . This will violate some of the tenets of the Ten Commandments:

"Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife; neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or anything that is thy neighbour's."

This, clearly, denounces forceful slavery, colonisation and other cruel acts of imperialism.
and:

"Neither shalt thou steal."

This also denounces looting of your brother’s property, resources and other schemes of financial fraud of some of our present banking system and practices where corrupt leaders hide illicit money in banks.

"Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour."

We should resist saying things that are false against your brother.

So, any person who justifies cruelty, injustice and looting of a fellow man's property is committing a sin. Man should leave prophesies to God to fulfil and not take upon themselves to commit horrendous crimes against another man with the pretext of “fulfilling” a prophesy. If one takes upon himself to do these things, he surely will get his vengeance from God. This is the Law. God fulfils prophesies at his own time and manner that is just; and NOT man determining the time and manner. Man is not God.

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